Comments Thread For: Wilder-Fury Draw Falls Within Scoring "Cone of Uncertainty"

[chrisJS]

"100% of Fury fans have Fury winning" is not exactly a compelling argument.

The majority of the ringside press had it a draw or Wilder winning. I'll take a guy like Dan Rafael - a guy who has won awards for boxing journalism - and who had Wilder winning by a round over some anonymous user from a message board. The tight scores, the almost dead-even CompuBox numbers and the very mixed scorecards of the boxing press at ringside are strong indications that this fight was far closer than most want to admit.

Of course, if someone sits there and listens to guys like Floyd and Lewis - who publicly spoke about being Fury favorites before the fight - gab all night long while watching the fight, it's human nature to be influenced by that. People don't realize they're being told who is winning the fight while watching it. And far too many people here don't actually understand boxing scoring either. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad how many people want to talk about Ring Generalship. Ring Generalship doesn't win a damn thing without the punches to back it up like aggression doesn't win a damn thing if you're not connecting.

Signed up December 2018 to defend a B.S decision LOL. Dan Rafael is known to love Wilder and hate Fury. His score is laughable.

The polls aren't all Fury fans. They include the masses of dumb Wilder nutthuggers and they are over 80% in Fury's favor.

Fury won and I'm not even a Fury fan.

[thecomedian2]

The 'Cone of uncertainty' can suck my d1ck.

How about if you suck mine? How about that?

[OldTerry]

Fury won at least 8 rounds, therefore he won. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a Wilder fan boy, or doesn't know how rounds are scored. Also, just because Wilder is the harder puncher, doesn't mean that he has effective aggression. His aggression was effective in two rounds, and not at all in either other. Fury also won in defence and ring generalship by a long, long way. Learn boxing, learn how to write, then come back here.

If Fury wins 8 rounds he has 80 points. Two of the four he loses gives him 18 more points the two knock down rounds he lost adds 16 more points. Fury in total has: 80 + 18 + 16 = 114


Wilder loses 8 rounds for a total of 72 points and wins four rounds for an additional 40 points. 72 + 40 = 112.


Yep Wilder lost the fight 114 to 112

[NachoMan]

I talked plenty of smack about Fury beforehand, but he schooled the hell out of Wilder. Wilder earned 3 points, not rounds. He gets two points, one for each knock down and 1 point (maybe) for winning an additional round. A knockdown is not worth more than 1 point. If you knock someone down you get 1 point deducted from the guy who gets dropped. The knockdown does not automatically confer the round or any more consideration beyond that one point deducted from the opponent. Three points, max, for Wilder. I wish we could sit down in a circle together and go over the 10-point must system of scoring.

[BWC]

"100% of Fury fans have Fury winning" is not exactly a compelling argument.

The majority of the ringside press had it a draw or Wilder winning. I'll take a guy like Dan Rafael - a guy who has won awards for boxing journalism - and who had Wilder winning by a round over some anonymous user from a message board. The tight scores, the almost dead-even CompuBox numbers and the very mixed scorecards of the boxing press at ringside are strong indications that this fight was far closer than most want to admit.

Of course, if someone sits there and listens to guys like Floyd and Lewis - who publicly spoke about being Fury favorites before the fight - gab all night long while watching the fight, it's human nature to be influenced by that. People don't realize they're being told who is winning the fight while watching it. And far too many people here don't actually understand boxing scoring either. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad how many people want to talk about Ring Generalship. Ring Generalship doesn't win a damn thing without the punches to back it up like aggression doesn't win a damn thing if you're not connecting.

The only difference between the guy who had it a draw and the judge who had Fury winning was round 6, a round that could have gone either way.

This fight could have very easily been a majority draw. Rafael and Pugmire as well as George Foreman all had it for Wilder.

They should start taking Paulie off these broadcasts. He's just too emotional. Listening to him cry after the decision was vomit-inducing..

[Lazy Jab]

I wonder how Lederman would have scored this fight??

[BWC]

I wonder how Lederman would have scored this fight??

I can't remember the last time Lederman was even close to the judges. Seriously..

[doom_specialist]

I thought Wilder lost, but this is what watching the replay sober is for. Not gonna do too much harping until I've seen it twice.

[Ake-Dawg]

Signed up December 2018 to defend a B.S decision LOL. Dan Rafael is known to love Wilder and hate Fury. His score is laughable.

The polls aren't all Fury fans. They include the masses of dumb Wilder nutthuggers and they are over 80% in Fury's favor.

Fury won and I'm not even a Fury fan.

You literally ignored everything he said to restate the same argument you've typed before.

The fight was close. The rounds were close based on facts that others have presented. Sure many believe Fury deserved the nod. That doesn't make a draw out of the realm of possibility given the lack of clean punches landed.

If you have to make all these whack azz statements and call people names, how strong is your argument. Unfortunately fan votes don't count. Only the 3 judges. And if the 3 judges are 3 of the 250 people in the world that would favor Wilder in those closely contested or boring af rounds, guess what, that's the reasonable result we live with.

[Ake-Dawg]

I talked plenty of smack about Fury beforehand, but he schooled the hell out of Wilder. Wilder earned 3 points, not rounds. He gets two points, one for each knock down and 1 point (maybe) for winning an additional round. A knockdown is not worth more than 1 point. If you knock someone down you get 1 point deducted from the guy who gets dropped. The knockdown does not automatically confer the round or any more consideration beyond that one point deducted from the opponent. Three points, max, for Wilder. I wish we could sit down in a circle together and go over the 10-point must system of scoring.

I see where you are going, but in a round, who would you rather be, the guy who got hit with a few light jabs and a couple of arm punches or the guy who got hit so hard he fell down because his brain got scrambled.

How hard you hit the other fighter counts for something. It's not the Olympics.