Loeffler discusses possible GGG-Jacobs rematch and possible opponent for GGG

[Diego Rodriguez]

Smith isn't the lineal champion.

That would be different. Golovkin would have done more and enough time would have past to have him rated higher. Canelo literally just beat him, if they both move up you've got to have Canelo higher imo.

I don’t need time to pass I need results in the division. I don’t care about the time. You hold to the lineal champion. I don’t. I view Smith as the champion. You beat him and you are now the top guy at that division. If Jacobs beats Canelo he is the top guy at MW. I don’t care how long it has been since he fought Golovkin.

Now again maybe it was Benevidez or Zurdo okay then let’s talk. That’s a more plausible case.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Canelo didn't beat Golovkin IMO. Putting that aside if G beats Smith and Canelo beats Fielding of course G will be rated higher at 168. Unless your talking P4P. Even then depending how each guy performs Golovkin could end up rated higher than Canelo P4P. Smith is rated #1 and Fielding is rated #9. The gap in skills between Fielding and Smith is pretty big.

I thought Golovkin won. That is my personal opinion. Canelo is the champion at 160lbs. Go be the guy at 160lbs you have to beat him. If Jacobs would fight and win he is the top guy. There is nothing subjective.

IF Golovkin were to fight Smith and beat him he would have beat the guy considered the champion by Ring Magazine and everyone I can find as the number one fighter at 168lbs.

[BoxingIsGreat]

It is silly at this point. I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m not sure Golovkin has the passion anymore. As you get older it isn’t only your athleticism that declines but your fire. Some guys don’t lose it but many of them fight too long and can’t perform.

If Golovkin wants to challenge himself, Charlo makes the most sense. I like Jermall although am not yet sold on him. This fight would have given me a gauge. It won't happen as Tom said.

Golovkin would only look for easy, money fights. I don't blame him for that. His time is up. Maybe take a couple of retirement prep fights and adios.

[b00g13man]

Why look at 168 when there's finally decent competition at 160?

[yankees7448]

On a P4P list I can see that. But not at 168lbs pure ranking. You beat the champion and you are the champion. Now if Canelo was facing Zurdo or Benavidez and won okay that seems more reasonable. Fielding is not one of the top 5 guys in the division, he is borderline top 10.

If Jacobs beats Canelo is he not the top guy at 160lbs though he lost to Golovkin? But it can’t be Golovkin because he didnt get the decision vs. Canelo. But Canelo can’t be the man because he lost to Jacobs. This just goes in a circle. I guess the answer then would be Pirog.

All these rankings are entirely subjective so its really silly to get all worked up about it. Everyone's criteria is different. Ring has their way of doing things and I get it. Its all about getting a clean and objective lineage of champions. I just don't agree with rankings that don't take into account history especially recent history.

[yankees7448]

If Golovkin wants to challenge himself, Charlo makes the most sense. I like Jermall although am not yet sold on him. This fight would have given me a gauge. It won't happen as Tom said.

I disagree here. As you alluded to yourself its impossible to be completely sold on him as a middleweight. Resume wise outside of Canelo the biggest challenge for GGG is Danny Jacobs. He's a proven middleweight that already gave GGG a good fight. Their match was close. He's the guy GGG should be targeting if he wants a challenge. Charlo is too much of an unknown quantity for that.

[yankees7448]

Why look at 168 when there's finally decent competition at 160?

He's chasing Canelo. That seems to be the point of this. Canelo moved up. So he's moving up. Canelo moves down...he'll move down. GGG doesn't have a middleweight belt anymore so he has a little more flexibility. No more "I want all the belts". He doesn't have the time to collect them from 3 different guys while also dealing with mandatory obligations. He's probably onto the last few fights of his career.

[yankees7448]

I said this a while back. That was when Murata was still an option. Makes even more sense now. If Golovkin still really has the passion go be the best of just wants one last big fight against Canelo.

I think manuevering for the Canelo fight is his only real option. Number one....its by far the biggest money fight for both guys. But just as important, he feels he beat Canelo twice (although I disagree with him on the second fight) but the record books says he lost. He needs to erase that loss by winning definitively the third fight.

[b00g13man]

He's chasing Canelo. That seems to be the point of this. Canelo moved up. So he's moving up. Canelo moves down...he'll move down. GGG doesn't have a middleweight belt anymore so he has a little more flexibility. No more "I want all the belts". He doesn't have the time to collect them from 3 different guys while also dealing with mandatory obligations. He's probably onto the last few fights of his career.

Who says Canelo is moving permanently to 168? The WBC have already told him what to do to get Canelo, but he doesn't want any parts of Charlo for some reason.

[j0zef]

I wouldn't be mad at GGG vs Callum Smith since Smith won the WBSS tournament. But I feel like they are talking about it cuz they hope to cut off Canelo at the pass if he stays at 168 more than they want that fight or will try to get that fight. But respect to them if they are looking to move up finally regardless of what Canelo does. I just don't think thats the case.

And I also think Jacobs II is a fight they will quickly see the appeal in again if they get left out in May as I fully expect them to get left out. GGG will be 37.5 by the time he'll get a third shot at Canelo BEST CASE & he's gonna have to do something to stand out or he's not getting that fight til he's 38 in May 2020...IF THEN. So if they are legit playing their hand like they are trying to win a Canelo III fight its gonna take some bold moves &/or luck to get there til he's so old it might not even be close to as competitive a fight it was the first two times.

As long as it's a legitimate top opponent, they can do whatever they want. Fight makes sense, brings money, and is a showdown between top fights.

If it gets them 3rd Canelo fight, more power to them.

Respect to Callum, but I think there are arguments for a few cats at 168 being #1. Fair play to you if you feel like opting out of the WBSS tournament DQ's someone from being #1 now, but I disagree. To me I would STILL need to see a tournament at 168 to be clear on who's #1. What the WBSS tournament did for the 200lb division isn't what happened at the 168lb division. So I think one could logically see #1 a 2-4way tie between Smith, Benavidez, Ramirez & Jose Uzcategui.

Eh.. I don't. Ramirez has wasted his prime years, and looked shaky in his last few fights. Benavidez is good, but he's young and doesn't seem to be improving much. He's in the same mold as Valdez and Munguia to me. Valdez is one of my top 3 favorite fighters, but that dude is 2 wrong moves away from being KTFO and his career never recovering. Munguia is sloppy.

Callum has the best, and clearest claim to SMW #1. The other 3 are really far behind.