Lil g is the biggest coward known to mankind. let's hope Canelo,Jacobs ignore him

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  • BillyBoxing
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    #91
    Originally posted by DreamFighter
    as is its a fact 3g has not beaten an elite, such as canelo.

    And he had 10 years to try it.



    Meantime, this guy, who is supposedly avoiding GGG, has two elite scalps (one is GGG) to his name, 8 years younger than 3G HAS NOT GOT JUST one. What a terrible counterargument you gave.

    Its clear as daylight who's avoiding top wins and who isnt.
    He has beaten Jacobs who is IMO an elite fighter.

    TBH if Nelo is elite, Jacobs did as good as Nelo vs GGG but lost because of a KD.

    GGG has been avoided by Cotto, Sturm and Martinez, it's well documented, TOP FIGHTERS agreed to fight him when he was past +35, including Nelo who waited that situation and still faield in the first attempt to beat GGG.

    The only TOP FIGHTER who wanted to fight GGG was Ward IMO, P4P number 1/2 and in a bigger division.

    GGG was not beating a bigger slicker Ward.

    GGG has been btw a rock and a hard place, that's what I believe.

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    • DreamFighter
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      #92
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      He has beaten Jacobs who is IMO an elite fighter.

      TBH if Nelo is elite, Jacobs did as good as Nelo vs GGG but lost because of a KD.

      GGG has been avoided by Cotto, Sturm and Martinez, it's well documented, TOP FIGHTERS agreed to fight him when he was past +35, including Nelo who waited that situation and still faield in the first attempt to beat GGG.

      The only TOP FIGHTER who wanted to fight GGG was Ward IMO, P4P number 1/2 and in a bigger division.


      and no, mentioning another fighter that GGG didnt ifght, as evidence that he did, doesnt improve your argument, so lose the Ward thing.

      GGG was not beating a bigger slicker Ward.

      GGG has been btw a rock and a hard place, that's what I believe.
      jacobs is not elite, though he may be one day. lets see if you turn out to be right, if he can pick up elite scalps. your time begins now.
      Last edited by DreamFighter; 10-29-2018, 11:21 AM.

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        #93
        Originally posted by DreamFighter
        jacobs is not elite, though he may be one day. lets see if you turn out to be right, if he can pick up elite scalps. your time begins now.
        That'll be a damn long wait!

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          #94
          Originally posted by DreamFighter
          dont make excuses for someone being handed titles for not doing anything. It is a scandal and you know it.


          What next, they gonna hand me one for not making a post on this forum?
          He is the luckiest MW in recent history.

          and assume nothing, we dont know how those fights would have turned out - what we do know is that G was a subworld level fighter at the time, with a subworld ibo title. Sturm would have been odds on favourite, and I would have expected him to beat 3G on points in germany. 3G is massively lucky not only to be handed a title but not to have to go into the champs lair to get it.

          And we know for sure that Canelo beat 3G too, so thats what we got to go on on how that would have happened.


          The time for making up fantasies about 3G is over - just accept what he did and didnt do.
          The bold:
          Green K sent.

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #95
            Originally posted by DreamFighter
            I have no interest in the draw, other than just who is superior over 2 fights. I base it on what has happened not what hasnt.

            A suggestion is always worth less than what transpires in reality.
            That's fair enough, but will you except that there was nothing particularly 'lucky' about Golovkin fighting Canelo in 2017 rather than 2016? We can't, of course know who would have won, but it's not a stretch to say GGGs chances wouldn't have improved over the intervening year.

            In both cases I'd make the case that Golovkin wasn't really lucky at all - certainly I doubt he thought he was... of the two most significant fights of his career, one didn't happen at all and ended up with him spending 2 years of his prime in promotional wilderness fighting nobodies instead of one of Europes biggest stars at the time and the other when his chances of winning were arguably slimmer than they had been just a year before.

            Look - I ain't blaming anyone for this ish - that's just the way the game is, if anyone's at fault it's the sanctioning orgs (and the WBA did at least throw GGG a bone with the title), but to say Golovkin was somehow particularly lucky with his career doesn't seem entirely accurate... in fact if anything I'd say the opposite. It is what it is though - guy's made enough financially to secure his future and is probably gonna retire with his faculties intact. I'd say that's a result.
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 10-29-2018, 11:44 AM.

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            • -DSG-
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              #96
              He already beat Jacobs black ass.

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              • DreamFighter
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                #97
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                That's fair enough, but will you except that there was nothing particularly 'lucky' about Golovkin fighting Canelo in 2017 rather than 2016?
                I'll accept that GGG took 13 years to face an elite, whilst Canelo has 3 elites on his resume almost a decade younger than 3G got his one. Thats the difference.

                Yeah but Canelos ducking.... by movig back to his actual ORIGINAL DIVISION.

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                • BillyBoxing
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  jacobs is not elite, though he may be one day. lets see if you turn out to be right, if he can pick up elite scalps. your time begins now.
                  I dunno what is the criteria for elite boxing when it comes to you NSB guys.

                  Elite is not ATG in my book or even HOFamer level.

                  160 is one of the deepest division in boxing and the consensus ranking is:
                  Nelo
                  GGG
                  Jacobs
                  Saunders
                  Charlo

                  So if the number 3 of one of the toughest division is not elite then I dunno what it tells about boxing.

                  He has beaten guys like Quillin, Mora, Derevyanchenko, Sulecki, Truax, lost a 115-114 type of fight versus Golovkin, he's an elite fighter IMO

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                  • j0zef
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Illmatic94
                    now look at him? 37 years old and has NEVER made one sacrifice to make a meaningful fight happen. EVER.
                    Offered to fight Floyd, Cotto, Canelo at 154. Offered 168 to Froch, Ward, Hopkins. Gave up every advantage to Canelo in the 1st fight, location, judges, even handwraps were a controversy.

                    Canelo gave him a payday on his debut at 160.
                    Golovkin was his mandatory in 2015, then waited for 2 years for Canelo to get the balls to fight him.

                    then Canelo gave him another payday coming off a long layoff and knee surgery.
                    Could have swore Canelo got busted for PEDs in this timeframe, but probably not since you didn't mention it.

                    what does lil g want to do when Canelo is not in the picture? fight the bum of all bums Vanes Martirosyan.
                    Again, wasn't this the fight he took on a month notice because his opponent failed a VADA test? And the opponent choice was limited due to HBO exiting the boxing business and only putting up $1M for the purse.

                    and recently he was chasing a fight against Ryota Bumrata.
                    He wants to fight in front of 80k at Wembl...... er Tokyodome.

                    why not call out Brant.. the winner? too slick?
                    The guy that Eubank wiped out and nobody knows his name?

                    why ignore Charlo?
                    Charlo is the only halfway decent MW on Showtime. DAZN and ESPN are the obvious landing spots for top MW. Anyone with half a brain realizes it. Motorcity created a thread asking whether or not Charlo will leave Showtime after next fight specifically because he has no legitimate opponents on the network.

                    even the lil g strings admit he's unproven and hyped. so whats the holdup? "he doesn't bring much money" so now lil g is behaving the same EXACT way Felix Sturm treated him huh? except Sturm has been SHREDDED for his behavior by the g strings but now they're silent.
                    Sturm was a champion who avoided him for several years. Golovkin is not a champion, and was just told to fight for a mandatory spot a month ago.

                    Jacobs already beat this coward and did more than earn an IMMEDIATE rematch. but the g string army wanted none of it. but after the first Canelo fight they said if Canelo doesn't rematch him than he's a coward. ??
                    Jacobs got dropped and lost a close decision. Golovkin-Canelo 1 was a draw, and had an extremely controversial scorecard courtesy of Byrd. The draw and the controversy created a natural rematch between the two fighters. Not even mentioning the obvious - the 1.5m PPVs he sold vs. Canelo.

                    Canelo is now guaranteed 32$mil against ANYBODY. lil g is not needed. and the coward doesnt have any belt to warrant a Jacobs shot.
                    Canelo made $32M against exactly 2 fighters. Floyd Mayweather and Gennady Golovkin. When he fought an 'anybody' type of opponent (Liam Smith), he generated 250K PPV buys.


                    Bye.

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                    • DreamFighter
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      I dunno what is the criteria for elite boxing when it comes to you NSB guys.

                      Elite is not ATG in my book or even HOFamer level.

                      160 is one of the deepest division in boxing and the consensus ranking is:
                      Nelo
                      GGG
                      Jacobs
                      Saunders
                      Charlo

                      So if the number 3 of one of the toughest division is not elite then I dunno what it tells about boxing.

                      He has beaten guys like Quillin, Mora, Derevyanchenko, Sulecki, Truax, lost a 115-114 type of fight versus Golovkin, he's an elite fighter IMO
                      none of those names suggest elite, though like I say they can build towards becoming elite with a top win.

                      His top level is vacant title winning. Its not elite. We cant class every bob who wins a vacant title as their best achievement as elite, or else li'l stuart hall is an elite.

                      Whe u are including Caleb Truax, you know your argument is padded.
                      Last edited by DreamFighter; 10-29-2018, 12:28 PM.

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