Why do people from the UK hate Mayweather?

[Guest]

Unfortunately, this comparison just doesn't hold up to the sniff test. The UK is much smaller than the U.S. and there is much more of a hometown treatment no matter what city the fighter is from, so long as he is from the UK. The U.S. is very large and favoritisms are generally shown on a state-by-state basis, and Lacy fought plenty of fights outside of Florida.

So no, you can't use the fact that a guy stays in the U.S. against him. Sorry.

You know I wasn't being serious though, right?

Although the favouritism US fighters get (look at the coverage Calvin Brock is getting) is shocking. People ought to wake up to the fact that in 50% of hyped US fighters, it's not about the skill, it's about the $.

[ROSEWOOD]

You know I wasn't being serious though, right?

Although the favouritism US fighters get (look at the coverage Calvin Brock is getting) is shocking. People ought to wake up to the fact that in 50% of hyped US fighters, it's not about the skill, it's about the $.

unfortunately playa, I have to agree with you on that...hell in every sport out there its all about the $$$$ and hype...

[Super_Lightweight]

Couldn't tell, but Brock is a good undefeated fighter and he is not hyped up in any overblown fashion. Any heavyweight with no losses is to be taken seriously in this craptacular era. Brock has looked much better than he did vs Timur Ibragimov. Even though Timur clearly did not want to fight and made the fight ugly, Brock received plenty of flack for looking lackluster.

[Guest]

unfortunately playa, I have to agree with you on that...hell in every sport out there its all about the $$$$ and hype...

Everywhere though. When SKY TV used to show Hatton's WBF fights they used to put them on boxoffice as a "title fight".

When they did the same with the Collazo fight they said it was Hatton's third title fight.

WTF? So when you were earning £ out of it, the WBF was a legit sanctioning body.... now you're not, it's not?

[Guest]

Couldn't tell, but Brock is a good undefeated fighter and he is not hyped up in any overblown fashion. Any heavyweight with no losses is to be taken seriously in this craptacular era. Brock has looked much better than he did vs Timur Ibragimov. Even though Timur clearly did not want to fight and made the fight ugly, Brock received plenty of flack for looking lackluster.

I'll hold my hands up, SL... Brock was the first name that came into my head, and it's too hot for me to think of a real hyped-up US fighter right now.

While Brock is being given more dues (say, by Dan Rafael on the HBO discussion before Toney-Rahman) than I believe he would if he wasn't American, he isn't, as you say, getting undue hype.

[Super_Lightweight]

But Brock would get smashed vs Wlad.

Anyone else, he can contend with for sure. Wladimir is just a whole different beast and I don't think Brock can deal with that type of speed and power from a heavyweight beast.

[Guest]

But Brock would get smashed vs Wlad.

Anyone else, he can contend with for sure. Wladimir is just a whole different beast and I don't think Brock can deal with that type of speed and power from a heavyweight beast.

Agreed. I was reading he's now Valuev's mandatory. I don't rate Valuev that highly, but I think he could beat Brock too.

[PRboxingfan]

I don't know why so many Brits claim that PBF is a pu$$y because he didn't fight Hatton at 140 when, in fact, Hatton was the one who didn't want to fight Mayweather. You can't blame Mayweather for not fighting Ricky when Ricky was the one that did not want to fight.

Then Ricky becomes the man at 140 (by beating KT) but Floyd is still around, giving lip service. But, Ricky still did not want to fight him so Floyd had no choice but go up in weight.

Also, you cannot fault PBF for not fighting "big names" when there were no big names out there willing to fight him. Nobody at 140 wanted any bit of Floyd after he beat up on Gatti. Cotto wanted no piece of him; neither did Hatton. So, he had no choice but to move up. Sharmba was a solid fighter and a good challenge for his first 47 fight.

Anywho, PBF should be respected for making the toughest fights available to him right. With the exception of Margarito (which I think he's holding out for the Mosley if he wins against Vargas), he's fought all challengers and has never outpriced himself in a fight.

[AllEyesOpen]

To be a fighter in the US at any weightclass, you will have to face a skilled fighter sooner or later, you couldn't have a 40-0 record without fighting more then a handful of A fighters. In the US the quality of opponents is better, making you a better fight, I think if Hatton would have faught in the US he'd have lost already, but he'd be a much better fighter. Sure there's favoritism but that's to certain fighters(Brock is one), if you're from Georgia & you fight in Florida, they're not gonna like you more cause you're from across the stateline. US fighters go to Europe & there's a good chance of getting screwed in the scorecards. Once again I'm not talking about the UK fans, you guys make alot of sense(except when it comes to Hatton), you love boxing, & you own the HW division , I just call'em like I see'em.

[Guest]

I don't know why so many Brits claim that PBF is a pu$$y because he didn't fight Hatton at 140 when, in fact, Hatton was the one who didn't want to fight Mayweather. You can't blame Mayweather for not fighting Ricky when Ricky was the one that did not want to fight.

Then Ricky becomes the man at 140 (by beating KT) but Floyd is still around, giving lip service. But, Ricky still did not want to fight him so Floyd had no choice but go up in weight.

Also, you cannot fault PBF for not fighting "big names" when there were no big names out there willing to fight him. Nobody at 140 wanted any bit of Floyd after he beat up on Gatti. Cotto wanted no piece of him; neither did Hatton. So, he had no choice but to move up. Sharmba was a solid fighter and a good challenge for his first 47 fight.

Anywho, PBF should be respected for making the toughest fights available to him right. With the exception of Margarito (which I think he's holding out for the Mosley if he wins against Vargas), he's fought all challengers and has never outpriced himself in a fight.

I might disagree about the "outpriced" bit, but you're right.

What I'm saying is, while the blame should not necessarily be pushed at Floyd's door for not fighting Hatton/Cotto/Margarito, he shouldn't be rated so highly without them, no matter whose fault it is.

If you look at the top 10 P4P, Mayweather is actually one of the least proven... particularly in the last four years.