Why do people from the UK hate Mayweather?

[Guest]

the US the quality of opponents is better, making you a better fight

I disagree, I think that's rather a generalisation.

Maybe if you compare US vs. UK, because there naturally won't be as many competitors in the UK (population size). But if we're talking US vs. Europe.

US fighters go to Europe & there's a good chance of getting screwed in the scorecards.

That's also true of Europeans coming to the US, though.

[Super_Lightweight]

Dan Rafael is a smartass, a fatass, and just an ass in general, so I understand your discontent with him. I think we'll have to make a bet if Valuev-Brock comes off though. Valuev got gifts vs Donald and John Ruiz already (according to most who tell me) and I definitely think Brock is on Donald's level.

As for UK ppl 'hating' Mayweather...that's just too bad. Mayweather is a very good fighter. But the reason people from the UK are upset with Mayweather has a lot to do with U.S. fans constantly dissing Ricky Hatton. It's become a hate-hate relationship now where hardly anyone who is a fan of Ricky or Floyd has a good thing to say about the other fighter, aside from a backhanded compliment.

[Guest]

That's a deal on the bet, S_L. And yeah, there is a lot of cyclical hate on here...

[JunglistSoldja]

This thread is bait and really needs to die.

[jai mari078]

I don't know why so many Brits claim that PBF is a pu$$y because he didn't fight Hatton at 140 when, in fact, Hatton was the one who didn't want to fight Mayweather. You can't blame Mayweather for not fighting Ricky when Ricky was the one that did not want to fight.

Then Ricky becomes the man at 140 (by beating KT) but Floyd is still around, giving lip service. But, Ricky still did not want to fight him so Floyd had no choice but go up in weight.

Also, you cannot fault PBF for not fighting "big names" when there were no big names out there willing to fight him. Nobody at 140 wanted any bit of Floyd after he beat up on Gatti. Cotto wanted no piece of him; neither did Hatton. So, he had no choice but to move up. Sharmba was a solid fighter and a good challenge for his first 47 fight.

Anywho, PBF should be respected for making the toughest fights available to him right. With the exception of Margarito (which I think he's holding out for the Mosley if he wins against Vargas), he's fought all challengers and has never outpriced himself in a fight.

What does him fighting Mosley at this point in Mosley's career prove. Mosley is far from what he used to be. This may have been an interesting fight a few years back when Mosley was at welter, and still had his speed and movement but at this point it doesn't mean as much. When he talks about wanting to fight the winner of Mosley-Vargas, or Baldomir if he wins, further makes me feel that he wants no part of Margarito when the money is there and he will get the bigger cut. What does fighting a guy in Baldomir who has nine losses prove?

[Left2body]

I disagree, I think that's rather a generalisation.

Maybe if you compare US vs. UK, because there naturally won't be as many competitors in the UK (population size). But if we're talking US vs. Europe.



That's also true of Europeans coming to the US, though.

I think this arguement holds some weight if you actually view it as competitors who fight in the US versus Europe. It doesn't matter that they aren't American the fact that they fight here raises the overall talent pool of competition.

Look at the WelterWeights, which is said to have the most talent out of any other division in boxing today.

Fighers fighting in US
PBF
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Carlos Quintana
Arturo Gatti
Baldomir
Luis Collazo
Jose L. Castillo
Diego Corrales (possibly)
Zab Juda
Demarcus Corley
Joel Julio
Shane Mosely (possibly)
Kermit Cintron
Jr. Witter
Paul Williams
I might have even missed a few

What jrWelter or welterweights fight primarily in Europe?

I would also wager that the journeymen that prospects fight is also a deeper talent pool and higher caliber than many other countries.

Look at some of the fights PROSPECTS and developing fighters have already fought.

Kermit Cintron has already faced Antonio Margarito and David Estrada in his short career. Joel Julio and Quintana have already faced off and there extremely young.

I'm not saying that Americans have the best fighters all I'm saying is that the best fighters come to America to fight. The argument could also be made that in America the talent pool of prospects is filtered out more aggressively (in general) and tested more so than in other countries i.e. UK

[ROSEWOOD]

To be a fighter in the US at any weightclass, you will have to face a skilled fighter sooner or later, you couldn't have a 40-0 record without fighting more then a handful of A fighters. In the US the quality of opponents is better, making you a better fight, I think if Hatton would have faught in the US he'd have lost already, but he'd be a much better fighter. Sure there's favoritism but that's to certain fighters(Brock is one), if you're from Georgia & you fight in Florida, they're not gonna like you more cause you're from across the stateline. US fighters go to Europe & there's a good chance of getting screwed in the scorecards. Once again I'm not talking about the UK fans, you guys make alot of sense(except when it comes to Hatton), you love boxing, & you own the HW division , I just call'em like I see'em.

I'm not so sure he would have lost by now...the dude has body blows that many fighter, US or UK lack.....to be honest, he kinda reminds me of my boy Tito..he start 40 - 0 and the only reason he lost is because he went to high up in weightclass. hatton is a good fighter, not a pretty boy, but he is a good fighter...

[Guest]

I think this arguement holds some weight if you actually view it as competitors who fight in the US versus Europe. It doesn't matter that they aren't American the fact that they fight here raises the overall talent pool of competition.

Look at the WelterWeights, which is said to have the most talent out of any other division in boxing today.

Fighers fighting in US
PBF
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Carlos Quintana
Arturo Gatti
Baldomir
Luis Collazo
Jose L. Castillo
Diego Corrales (possibly)
Zab Juda
Demarcus Corley
Joel Julio
Shane Mosely (possibly)
Kermit Cintron
Jr. Witter
Paul Williams
I might have even missed a few

What jrWelter or welterweights fight primarily in Europe?

I would also wager that the journeymen that prospects fight is also a deeper talent pool and higher caliber than many other countries.

Look at some of the fights PROSPECTS and developing fighters have already fought.

Kermit Cintron has already faced Antonio Margarito and David Estrada in his short career. Joel Julio and Quintana have already faced off and there extremely young.

I'm not saying that Americans have the best fighters all I'm saying is that the best fighters come to America to fight. The argument could also be made that in America the talent pool of prospects is filtered out more aggressively (in general) and tested more so than in other countries i.e. UK

It's an interesting point (I could nitpick and say that Baldomir only just came to the US, and Witter still fights primarily in the UK, but that's not the point...)

Certainly, there's a lot of money that causes America to be a high centre of competitive boxing. But that doesn't mean we must assume that because someone HASN'T fought in the US then they can't fight. I think 90% of the board learnt that lesson in March with the Joe Blow broadcast.

[Nacho_Analstain]

i dont hate mayweather hes a ****in legend!or will be,maybe...
hes got the potential