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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #71
    Originally posted by g27region
    The same thing why everybody brings up the fact Broner was the champ in several divisions but never mention the fact who he's actually defeated for the titles, because it's Paulie Malignanni (or what was the name of that McGregor sparring partner) and that's it

    See, some people picked Postol to beat Crawford. Some people picked Walters and GRJ to beat Lomachenko. Even Rigo with all disadvantages he had, had his cult followers who thought he's some kind of boxing miracle who can't do no wrong and age or size difference doesn't affect him. I don't name names, but there's a poster who is still here when he was supposed to leave the site after betting on Linares against Loma last time.

    Gassiev/Usyk was 50/50 fight.
    Golovkin/Canelo was 50/50 fight too.
    And Mikey is higher than Usyk and Canelo
    Now....

    Who picked Lipinets over Mikey Garcia? Or Adrian Broner against Mikey Garcia? Easter or Zlaticanin against Garcia? Almost nobody except for trolls, right? That's what I'm saying. Why he should be higher on the list than two guys who went through their 50/50 fights, Canelo and Usyk? It's not about multiple divisions, it's about who you beat for me
    People gave Broner more of a chance to beat Garcia than Walters etc over Loma. Google the odds. No need to try and rewrite history to suit your agenda.

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    • Boxing Hero
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      #72
      Mikey Garcia is good and one of my favorite fighters but no way should he be ranked that high, no even close!!!!

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #73
        Originally posted by Boxing Hero
        Mikey Garcia is good and one of my favorite fighters but no way should he be ranked that high, no even close!!!!
        Why not? If you have Loma that high then a case can be made for Garcia too.

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        • Sosay
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          #74
          Am I the only one who has always done his lb4lb rankings by thinking of who'd win if they were the exact size but had their xurrent skill set? Resume is very inportant but some guys are obvious without a deep one.

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #75
            Originally posted by Sosay
            Am I the only one who has always done his lb4lb rankings by thinking of who'd win if they were the exact size but had their xurrent skill set? Resume is very inportant but some guys are obvious without a deep one.
            I'm more of a who they beat guy. Fighters can look fantastic fighting guys a step below. Beat the best to become the best, not look good against B level fighters to become the best.

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            • g27region
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              #76
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              People gave Broner more of a chance to beat Garcia than Walters etc over Loma. Google the odds. No need to try and rewrite history to suit your agenda.
              The thought that I'm having some kind of an "agenda" is a delusion in your head. That's all you could answer to that long ass message?

              "But Odds on Broner/Garcia was more even than that?". According to poll threads here, Broner/Garcia and Walters/Lomachenko had almost the same odds, with 3-4 percents being the difference. Broner had 23% percents of votes, Walters had 20%. If we talk about bookmakers, yeah, Broner probably had the better chance than Walters, but don't forget Broner is more well-known name too.
              But there's a context

              Walters/Lomachenko actually had some history behind it. People said Walters will be the test for Lomachenko but they were saying that before that long delay happened. His inactivity was definitely the factor that made a lot of people hesitate to choose him.

              Broner, unlike Walters, had a lot of factors in his advantage.
              Mikey being the smaller guy testing himself at the weight, and the history of Broner looking better at 140. But as a fighter, without all that **** going on for him, Broner can't beat anybody above B class, even a smaller fighter, that should be clear to everybody now...Never thought Broner who's barely throwing anything gonna be a threat to Mikey, but okay, I'll give you that. The problem is that Broner is the only fight like this in his entire resume. Who else? Zlaticanin? Easter? Lipinets? I think GRJ, Rigo and Linares names looks better

              And speaking of me having "agenda", I know you don't like Lomachenko so I'm gonna say this for you - F-CK LOMACHENKO, you heard me? F-U-C-K Loma, get him out of your top 10 NOW. That's what I want you to do. That's for you constantly bringing him up in the discussion where you could mention other names in the list, so who's obsessed? Forget about Loma and better explain, why the **** Mickey should be above Usyk and Canelo who just went through 50/50 fights, huh? Why you don't mention that?

              Sure, Mikey Garcia is more deserving of a p4p spot than somebody like Joshua but he had to get to Linares first, when he had the chance. There's gonna be a lot of good options for him at 140 soon, so you better hope he won't **** up these opportinities
              Last edited by g27region; 10-02-2018, 12:05 AM.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #77
                Originally posted by g27region
                The thought that I'm having some kind of an "agenda" is a delusion in your head. That's all you could answer to that long ass message?

                "But Odds on Broner/Garcia was more even than that?". According to poll threads here, Broner/Garcia and Walters/Lomachenko had almost the same odds, with 3-4 percents being the difference. Broner had 23% percents of votes, Walters had 20%. If we talk about bookmakers, yeah, Broner probably had the better chance than Walters, but don't forget Broner is more well-known name too.
                But there's a context

                Walters/Lomachenko actually had some history behind it. People said Walters will be the test for Lomachenko but they were saying that before that long delay happened. His inactivity was definitely the factor that made a lot of people hesitate to choose him.

                Broner, unlike Walters, had a lot of factors in his advantage.
                Mikey being the smaller guy testing himself at the weight, and the history of Broner looking better at 140. But as a fighter, without all that **** going on for him, Broner can't beat anybody above B class, even a smaller fighter, that should be clear to everybody now...Never thought Broner who's barely throwing anything gonna be a threat to Mikey, but okay, I'll give you that. The problem is that Broner is the only fight like this in his entire resume. Who else? Zlaticanin? Easter? Lipinets? I think GRJ, Rigo and Linares names looks better

                And speaking of me having "agenda", I know you don't like Lomachenko so I'm gonna say this for you - F-CK LOMACHENKO, you heard me? F-U-C-K Loma, get him out of your top 10 NOW. That's what I want you to do. That's for you constantly bringing him up in the discussion where you could mention other names in the list, so who's obsessed? Forget about Loma and better explain, why the **** Mickey should be above Usyk and Canelo who just went through 50/50 fights, huh? Why you don't mention that?

                Sure, Mikey Garcia is more deserving of a p4p spot than somebody like Joshua but he had to get to Linares first, when he had the chance. There's gonna be a lot of good options for him at 140 soon, so you better hope he won't **** up these opportinities
                Martinez, REJ, Broner, Lopez are as good as Loma's wins. Garcia has won titles in 4 divisions. If the same criteria to rank Loma so high is used then Garcia should be ranked high also.

                You seem to be getting confused, I personally don't rank Garcia that high. I just can see why someone would. As i said earlier, i'm more of a who you beat person.

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                • Adamsc151
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by suffolkbull3
                  You dont hold any weight behind loma being knocked down in his last fight and losing to salido against him at all? i also think loma is great but i cant have a guy at the top the very top of the p4p list who been knocked down recently andd although it was a while ago, has a L on his record vs a very avg champion. Dont get me wrong, i think what loma is doing is great but i cant put him at #1 in all of boxing right now
                  The Salido fight was Loma rushing as he knows he turned pro late, but in hindsight he got better after the loss so it was worth it. And yes he got dropped by linares, but did you see the size difference? On top of that Linares is a slickster himself, not just a brainless brawler. The best thing about Loma is that he has taken bigger risks with opponents than the rest on the P4P list save for maybe Canelo. But Canelo has everything possible stacked in his favour on fight night in Vegas

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                  • Mirus
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    Last I lookes canelo has a WIN over Lara and over Canelo.
                    Wa-ha-ha

                    "Canelo has a win over canelo"

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                    • _Rexy_
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                      #80
                      What has Mikey done recently to get him ranked so high? Say he wants Spence?

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