Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

Joshua gets UK money and Wilder gets the US money.

[Sid-Knee]

They are worth 50% as proven, undefeated champions in the ring, Fury as the lineal champion and Wilder as the most dangerous and longest reigning WBC champion. Although technically, as you know, Fury is still the unified WBA IBF and WBO champion, having never lost those titles in the ring.... So their fight is really for the "undisputed" championship. But to be fair, it's just for the WBC and lineal titles. That's good enough for most fans.

Both Wilder and Fury have stated that they won't fight Joshua unless he accepts a 50/50 deal. So until that happens, Wilder and Fury are not fighting Joshua anytime soon. Then again, they were champions (with all the belts) before Joshua came on the scene so it's really Joshua who needs THEM to prove he's better than the current champions.

Wilder and Fury stand to make a lot of money on December 1st. After that, there's a WBC mandatory, a tuneup fight for the one that came up short, and a possible UK rematch. It may not be Joshua money, but they'll be fine...

You and all the Joshua fans will have Joshua all to yourself in 2019. So everybody's happy... those that want to follow the fighters that challenge themselves against the best perceived threats in the division, and those that want to see how much money Joshua can make with each fight...

You're so painfully ratardid it's scary. Being undefeated and having a title doesn't garner you half the money when you don't bring close to what Joshua does to the table. Wilder doesn't get paid much or sell tickets for a reason. Joshua does for a reason. If that's too much for you to understand then there is no point in continuing this madness. Have a good day.

[Sid-Knee]

I'm not going to let an idiot drag me into an idiotic argument. I think Ortiz would beat Povetkin, so I have Ortiz rated higher. You think Povetkin would beat Ortiz, so you have Povetkin rated higher. Good for you. Neither one of us can prove the other wrong, but when rating the more significant victory, Wilder beating Ortiz or AJ beating Povetkin, the Ortiz victory carries more weight because most experts hold Ortiz in higher regard. You don't. Good for you. Why do you want me to try to change your mind when we both know you won't change your mind? And your opinion has no impact on which win carries more weight in the industry.

I'm asking you to justify Stiverne and Ortiz having such high rankings, not who is better between Ortiz and Povetkin.

Nice try though.

You can't make an argument because we both know you'll make a complete fool of yourself. That's the reason you won't even try.

[davefromvancouv]

You're so painfully ratardid it's scary. Being undefeated and having a title doesn't garner you half the money when you don't bring close to what Joshua does to the table. Wilder doesn't get paid much or sell tickets for a reason. Joshua does for a reason. If that's too much for you to understand then there is no point in continuing this madness. Have a good day.

You conveniently left out several important facts: Wilder and Fury are the current champions, had all the belts before Joshua and have never lost those titles in the ring. Another fact is that this is for all the marbles, the top of the food chain, the ultimate prize, the undisputed and lineal heavyweight championship of the world.

Wilder-Fury, technically, don't need Joshua. But if they DO fight, it's a mega fight. You're talking in the 100s of millions of dollars. Joshua can't make that with anybody else. IN ONE FIGHT!!!

It takes two to tango...50/50 is a STEAL!!! Hopefully, Joshua comes to his senses in April, realizes the gravity of this situation and makes the fight with an even split. Otherwise, he's taking unnecessary punishment fighting unnecessary, less lucrative fights.

[N/A]

I'm asking you to justify Stiverne and Ortiz having such high rankings, not who is better between Ortiz and Povetkin.

My justification for ranking Ortiz so high is that I'd favor him to beat almost everybody. AJ and Wilder are the only guys I'd favor over him.

I have him #3 for that reason. TBRB has him #4 right now. So even after losing earlier this year, he's still considered top 4 in the world. Personally I think he'd destroy Dillian Whyte and Hearn must agree since he pulled Whyte from a final eliminator when he found out Ortiz would be the opponent.

[Laligalaliga]

Fights draw relies in the dance partner. And if you read my previous post is IF Wilder beats Fury in a fight of the year candidate it will change things. My prediction is that the Fury/Wilder fight is going to be boring

The A side personality is what matters first before the dancing partner.
Trust me, AJ still fill stadium and do ppv numbers even if he fight a Chinese guy, I can't say same for wilder.

[STREET CLEANER]

The A side personality is what matters first before the dancing partner.
Trust me, AJ still fill stadium and do ppv numbers even if he fight a Chinese guy, I can't say same for wilder.

Now I see your agenda.

[Laligalaliga]

Now I see your agenda.

It's good you know now... Wise up bro.

Don't call white blue.

[Sid-Knee]

My justification for ranking Ortiz so high is that I'd favor him to beat almost everybody. AJ and Wilder are the only guys I'd favor over him.

I have him #3 for that reason. TBRB has him #4 right now. So even after losing earlier this year, he's still considered top 4 in the world. Personally I think he'd destroy Dillian Whyte and Hearn must agree since he pulled Whyte from a final eliminator when he found out Ortiz would be the opponent.

You don't rank fighters by what you THINK they'll do, you go by what they actually have done. And all Ortiz has done is beat that bum Jennings. That right there doesn't get you a top 4 ranking. Sorry.

No mention of Stiverne though, because that's even worse. Neither have done anything worth talking about. Nor will they in the future.

[N/A]

You don't rank fighters by what you THINK they'll do, you go by what they actually have done.

What Ortiz has actually done and what Whyte has actually done indicates that Ortiz would win. Clearly Hearn felt Parker was a safer fight, since he chose Parker with nothing at stake over Ortiz in a final eliminator.

All of the world's leading experts consider Ortiz one of the best fighters in the world. You just don't like him because he lost to Wilder, so you have to pretend he's trash.