Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

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What Ortiz has actually done and what Whyte has actually done indicates that Ortiz would win. Clearly Hearn felt Parker was a safer fight, since he chose Parker with nothing at stake over Ortiz in a final eliminator.

All of the world's leading experts consider Ortiz one of the best fighters in the world. You just don't like him because he lost to Wilder, so you have to pretend he's trash.

Whyte has a win over Parker. That's miles better than anything Ortiz has done. Or are you so deranged that you're going to try and convince me Jennings is a better win?

Nothing would be at stake against Ortiz either. Whyte would only become the second mandatory after Brezeale and would have to wait years to get Wilder in the ring. Wilder has even admitted he'll make Whyte wait for his shot.

Ortiz is ONE OF the best fighters at Heavyweight. But he isn't top 5. He's done absolutely nothing to get him such a high ranking.

Why would I dislike him for losing to Wilder?

I don't think he's trash, he's actually a good fighter but he needs to prove it. His reputation is built on what people think he would do instead of what he actually has done. To get such a high ranking you've got to be a bit more than hype. Sorry.

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Whyte has a win over Parker.

That would have been a draw if a blatant headbutt wasn't incorrectly ruled a knockdown. That would have been a knockout loss if the fight had gone 30 seconds longer. That likely would have been a decision loss if scored in another country and definitely would have been a decision loss if the British ref didn't let Whyte deliberately hold Parker behind the head to hold him in place to be hit over and over the entire fight.

That's miles better than anything Ortiz has done.

Thank you for your opinion. All of the world's leading experts have Ortiz rated above Parker. If you disagree, good for you. I don't argue opinions.

Nothing would be at stake against Ortiz either. Whyte would only become the second mandatory after Brezeale

That is still something at stake as opposed to absolutely nothing being at stake. So clearly Hearn considered Parker the safer fight.

Ortiz is ONE OF the best fighters at Heavyweight. But he isn't top 5.

Thank you for your opinion. TBRB, ESPN, Ring, etc, disagree. I have no problem with you not having him in your top 5. Boxrec doesn't. On paper, if you want to argue Whyte has accomplished more, I have no issue with that. But Hearn, and everyone in the industry, considers Parker a safer opponent than Ortiz. There's no debate about that.

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That would have been a draw if a blatant headbutt wasn't incorrectly ruled a knockdown. That would have been a knockout loss if the fight had gone 30 seconds longer. That likely would have been a decision loss if scored in another country and definitely would have been a decision loss if the British ref didn't let Whyte deliberately hold Parker behind the head to hold him in place to be hit over and over the entire fight.




Thank you for your opinion. All of the world's leading experts have Ortiz rated above Parker. If you disagree, good for you. I don't argue opinions.




That is still something at stake as opposed to absolutely nothing being at stake. So clearly Hearn considered Parker the safer fight.




Thank you for your opinion. TBRB, ESPN, Ring, etc, disagree. I have no problem with you not having him in your top 5. Boxrec doesn't. On paper, if you want to argue Whyte has accomplished more, I have no issue with that. But Hearn, and everyone in the industry, considers Parker a safer opponent than Ortiz. There's no debate about that.

If, if and more if's. The fact is, Whyte beat him.

The clash of heads was accidental. Don't try and make out it was something different. Your clear spite won't change that.

The fight didn't last 30 seconds more so it matters not.

Then it would have been a robbery if it was scored in another country and the decision went to Parker. Even Parker and his whole team knew he lost.

Fighters get a bit rough in there sometimes with a little bit of hitting in the clinch. It happens. Stop crying about it and making it into something it isn't.

Parker was rated higher than Ortiz before the Whyte fight. But due to Parker losing two fights on the bounce, he's now ranked lower than Ortiz. He shouldn't, because Parker has been in there with much better fighters and won some of them. Ortiz has done nothing.

If you want to believe a secondary mandatory to the WBC title and a fight that won't happen for 2 years is fighting for something, then knock yourself out. But we both really know it's worthless. Just look at the situation going on with Oquendo. That's how much worth it actually has.

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The clash of heads was accidental.

Accidental or not, it wasn't a knockdown. The result should be changed to a draw.

Fighters get a bit rough in there sometimes with a little bit of hitting in the clinch. It happens.

No no no, this was blatant and deliberate holding behind the head with one hand to keep the head in place for an uppercut. Whyte did it over and over in every round and a neutral official would have never allowed it.

Parker was rated higher than Ortiz before the Whyte fight. But due to Parker losing two fights on the bounce, he's now ranked lower than Ortiz. He shouldn't, because Parker has been in there with much better fighters and won some of them. Ortiz has done nothing.

If if if if . . .

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Accidental or not, it wasn't a knockdown. The result should be changed to a draw.




No no no, this was blatant and deliberate holding behind the head with one hand to keep the head in place for an uppercut. Whyte did it over and over in every round and a neutral official would have never allowed it.




If if if if . . .

The result won't be changed. Haha.

Whyte did it in every round? No he didn't. Stop exaggerating all the time..

There were no ifs in the part you quoted. So yeah...

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The result won't be changed. Haha.

Whyte did it in every round? No he didn't. Stop exaggerating all the time..

There were no ifs in the part you quoted. So yeah...

please remind that fraud that if wilder had not gotten some home cooking and 30 seconds extra recovery time, he would have lost to ortiz.

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Seriously, I'm starting to think that you are slow or something. Wilder has fought all bums outside of the first Stiverne fight and Ortiz. And he isn't "stepping up" to fight Fury, he's trying to catch him while he's down. Stop mentioning Ortiz (who was 39 and on heart medication) and start talking about Areolla, Washington and Szpilka. Wilder fought guys that were ranked in the 100's in the world regularly before he got a title shot. Then after he won, he fought guys ranked in the 30'sto 50's. That's why he gets no %. That's why he doesn't make much per fight and that's why he's an overrated, protected fraud who beats bums. If you saw a guy waling down the street hitting bums on the corner, would you be impressed??!?! No, you'd be annoyed and you would tell him to stop beating up bums. Same with Wilder

He doesn't attempt to make coherent responses to yours or anyone's posts and always takes a little snippet not relevant to the point to get people bite.

If this guys paid to post he's clearly going to be saying dumb sh**t all the time to get a response. He just needs to be ignored, no ones gonna pay him jack then.

Spread the word ✊ .... Lol

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If, if and more if's. The fact is, Whyte beat him.

The clash of heads was accidental. Don't try and make out it was something different. Your clear spite won't change that.

The fight didn't last 30 seconds more so it matters not.

Then it would have been a robbery if it was scored in another country and the decision went to Parker. Even Parker and his whole team knew he lost.

Fighters get a bit rough in there sometimes with a little bit of hitting in the clinch. It happens. Stop crying about it and making it into something it isn't.

Parker was rated higher than Ortiz before the Whyte fight. But due to Parker losing two fights on the bounce, he's now ranked lower than Ortiz. He shouldn't, because Parker has been in there with much better fighters and won some of them. Ortiz has done nothing.

If you want to believe a secondary mandatory to the WBC title and a fight that won't happen for 2 years is fighting for something, then knock yourself out. But we both really know it's worthless. Just look at the situation going on with Oquendo. That's how much worth it actually has.

Man you said Whyte had a better win/resume in Parker than Ortiz is best win in Jennings.

The guy then says Ortiz is better than Parker completely ducks the fact that Parker is better than Jennings and therefore Whyte is more proven through resumes.
Not to mention ranked 1 below Wilder by the WBC as no1 Challenger or whatever and above both Fury and Ortiz.

Why you giving this fool the time of day?

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Man you said Whyte had a better win/resume in Parker than Ortiz is best win in Jennings.

The guy then says Ortiz is better than Parker completely ducks the fact that Parker is better than Jennings and therefore Whyte is more proven through resumes.
Not to mention ranked 1 below Wilder by the WBC as no1 Challenger or whatever and above both Fury and Ortiz.

Why you giving this fool the time of day?

Yeah, I really should ignore him. But I like to **** with him.