Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

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  • davefromvancouv
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    #141
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    Wilder won't ever make good money outside of Fury, Whyte and Joshua. He needs these opponents because without them he stays making the 2 mill or less he always has.
    Again with the money. Wilder and Fury are fighting each other because they want to prove to themselves that they are the best in the division. So they don't care if they are making 2 million a fight.

    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    Fury isn't a champ so why would Joshua respect him as one? Just because you want to make his fight with Wilder a lot more than it is won't fly in the face of facts and reality, no matter how delusional you become.
    Fury is the head of the division, the heavyweight lineal champion (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...orld_champions). A lineage that dates back 133 years... Have you seen the names on that list? ARE THEY REAL TO YOU??? Does Joshua's name appear anywhere on that list? So who's delusional?

    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    As for Wilder, you think having a title allows you to ask for half against the biggest star in boxing? No title holder outside of America was even close to being this delusional when being in big fights. They took what they were worth and got on with it. Had they asked for ridiculous amount of money, Americans would have laughed. Not one of them would support a Maidana against a Mayweather in asking for money beyond their worth. They were sane you see. Maidana never got offered 15 mill, it was about 3 mill. And he was more proven and a bigger star than Wilder will ever be. So get with the program because you're just boring me now with your madness.
    The winner of Wilder-Fury will have a lot more than just a belt and I think you know this.
    Last edited by davefromvancouv; 09-27-2018, 10:45 PM.

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #142
      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
      What 4 belts, he has three major ones the 4th one is bs belt.

      The fight depends on the match. This is the biggest fight that can be made in boxing right now. Nothing comes close to it. Now don't take the Hearn stance and say that the fight is not worth much when they were offering them 50 million plus incentives for the fight
      Am just saying, if you were AJ with all that accolades and drawing power and the kind of money you make per fight, will you accept 55% against a guy that has never been on ppv?
      Never fought in front of 20k spectators, still fighting for 1.5m?

      Common, boxing is also business, let's not turn blind eyes to that aspect. AJ worked so hard to be in that position, it was never given to him on a platter of gold.

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      • New England
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        #143
        Originally posted by Marchegiano
        Dunno what that has to do with fair. A fair fight is held on neutral ground with judges who'd rather see both lose then either win.

        And a 75/25 split to the winner.


        dunno what your post has to do with reality.

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        • Boksfan
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          #144
          Originally posted by that g
          putting belts on the line happens now without having "one big promoter".
          You are not talking boxing, just some fairy tales.

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            #145
            Originally posted by New England
            dunno what your post has to do with reality.
            I was wondering what the damn hell.

            I thought I was being a flippant smartass by highlighting how fair is unrealistic through juxtaposition.


            I'm not trying to be a patronizing **** when I ask, I really am not sure; do you need me to explain further?

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              #146
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              It sounds vindictive? How does being rational sound vindictive?

              You're asking the biggest star to fight a nobody on neutral territory which makes no sense what so ever. Which is why I asked which big American star did the same for international fighters who were hardly known?

              What has Lennox got to do with this? He fought in enemy territory nearly every time. When was he able to get the bigger American names to fight him elsewhere? It never happened. The only time was against Rahman in Africa which was a voluntary defence. The bigger fights happened in the states. Had Lennox asked for a neutral location he would have been told to go **** himself. So not the same in any way.
              Alright bubba, I apologize for the vindictive comment. I misunderstood your meaning is all. I dunno what any of that has to do with fair though.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              I asked which big American star did the same for international fighters who were hardly known?
              How about Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas in Tokyo?

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                #147
                1/3 each, 1/3 to the winner

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                • hugh grant
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                  #148
                  6o 40 seems about right. Or maybe 65 35?
                  And in rematch wilder can expect more if he beats Josh and gives Josh rematch

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    But I'm not claiming to know what either gets paid and you're claiming to know what both get paid. Even though you have absolutely no idea.

                    So we're not both doing anything. You're lying about what you know and I'm exposing your lie.
                    Haha, You're the one who keeps on claiming Wilder is getting paid more money than is advertised, not me. You bring this argument up when trying to legitimize Wilder getting paid more for the Joshua fight and to deny he gets paid peanuts in comparison. So don't try and lay that at my door when it's clearly you who brings it up all the time.

                    All I did was say Joshua also gets paid more behind the scenes to make a point when you use your argument. As in "Two can play that game" sort of thing. I don't know if either gets paid more than is advertised. But neither do you. So drop that argument now, it's nothing but nonsense you can't prove.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      Alright bubba, I apologize for the vindictive comment. I misunderstood your meaning is all. I dunno what any of that has to do with fair though.



                      How about Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas in Tokyo?
                      Tyson and Douglas are both American, so it isn't the same. It has to be a big American name fighting an international fighter who isn't American.

                      It doesn't happen. Which is why it shouldn't happen here with Joshua either. To propose it is nothing short of preposterous. AJ is the huge A side so he decides where it takes place. If Wilder and his fans don't like it, they can fight bums at home instead for peanuts. Joshua will keep himself busy by continuing to clean out the division against fighters who actually want to fight and don't price themselves out like Wilder is doing.

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