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  • Noelanthony
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    #191
    Originally posted by Straightener
    It’s not backfired ..... wilder has signed a two fight deal to block the fight you dafty

    It’s not gonna help any negotiations because we are talking nearly a year down the line
    He will soak up that information you just told him dip his head back into a bucket of ice cold water. Take his head out after 20 seconds. His pals jokingly said to him that it’s cool to be wet behind the ears so he gets a bucket of water and dips his head in it every time he is about to post

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    • Straightener
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      #192
      Originally posted by Noelanthony
      He will soak up that information you just told him dip his head back into a bucket of ice cold water. Take his head out after 20 seconds. His pals jokingly said to him that it’s cool to be wet behind the ears so he gets a bucket of water and dips his head in it every time he is about to post
      hahaha

      Your not wrong

      but but but 50 mil but ahhah

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      • Ray*
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        #193
        Originally posted by Straightener
        Quite funny how people flip flop hard on this site

        Yesterday Hearn was the devil for trying to get the ball rolling now Finkel drops a bollock and everyone is on full on deflect mode

        I still think they didn’t want the fight ... you don’t sign a two fight deal with a guy who’s just had a two year lay off and two tune ups with guys ranked outside the top 130

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        It’s laughable watching them in spinning control. This is what happen when you are bias, when you can’t think for yourself, they just sprout out whatever Shelly says. Rinse and repeat, hopefully the ones that thought this was a one sided ducking would realise the game that Shelly was playing all along. Social media has already explode with this comments. People are now coming around, it would take more for the thick ones to get it doe.

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          #194
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          Why is it greedy? Particularly considering per Hearn it's the biggest fight in British boxing history. It's not the biggest just because of Joshua. So why take less than 20% of that big pot. Why take less when Hearn himself said he should get more if he beats Fury?
          Wilder ran to the media several times claiming he will KO AJ and be the only face of the division and be the biggest draw. Opportunity present itself and he is nowhere to be found stating different excuses.

          A champ that has no ppv records don't have much leverage on ppv revenues. Don't act like you are too dume to know that.

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            #195
            Originally posted by Ray*
            It’s laughable watching them in spinning control. This is what happen when you are bias, when you can’t think for yourself, they just sprout out whatever Shelly says. Rinse and repeat, hopefully the ones that thought this was a one sided ducking would realise the game that Shelly was playing all along. Social media has already explode with this comments. People are now coming around, it would take more for the thick ones to get it doe.
            Ray, The thick are resilient ,do not underestimate their density. I will not give names but in less than 3 hours when they wake up from their slumber you will be astonished.

            You corner a Wilderlite at a dead end and dispose of him and 3 more Wilderlites are born. Canadians are even catching the bug. Wilderites over there are at a all time high. Spearheaded by the leader Rexy and CEO of Wilderlite corporation Canadian Division
            Last edited by Noelanthony; 09-26-2018, 06:36 AM.

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            • Straightener
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              #196
              Originally posted by Ray*
              It’s laughable watching them in spinning control. This is what happen when you are bias, when you can’t think for yourself, they just sprout out whatever Shelly says. Rinse and repeat, hopefully the ones that thought this was a one sided ducking would realise the game that Shelly was playing all along. Social media has already explode with this comments. People are now coming around, it would take more for the thick ones to get it doe.
              Yep

              Its pretty clear what was happening ..... warren and finkle tag team effort to s**t on hearn

              The egg on the face moment is if fury stinks the first fight clean out (which could easily happen) . This two fight deal is gonna look a real s***ter .

              I've never seen a fury fight and hoped for a rematch in my life

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              • Laligalaliga
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                #197
                Originally posted by JWHardin
                A % of the gate and PPV sales. Parker got 33%. Wilder is not worth 40% assuming he beats Fury and is now also the linear champion? Remember Hearn said he is negotiating with the assumption Wilder wins. It's not rocket science. Just fair negotiating, assuming they want the fight to happen. Even at a 50/50 deal it would still be AJ's highest payday....but hell, its not about the money right? The $80 million guaranteed over two fights offer from team Wilder was turned down, and that was guaranteed even if Wilder won the first.
                Parker has ppv records prior to the unification. Wilder has got nothing except the green belt. So stop all these propaganda.

                To be honest, the only reason wilder is getting fights is because of the green belt. Take it away from him he becomes irrelevant in the division.

                No wilder opponents in 40 fights has earned 1mil. So why fight him for 300k when I can fight AJ and get 2mil?

                Boxing is not just a sport, it's also a Business. Stop acting like you are novice.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony
                  Or is it because Wilder is scheduled to fight Fury twice.? I recall you actually campaigned for it so you are a very happy Wilder fan as we speak( fury and Wilder)
                  I am happy for Wilder! He finally gets a big fight! Hopefully, Fury doesn't pop positive like Povetkin and Ortiz!

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    AJ is still more popular than wilder in the US.
                    Ridiculous statement. Wilder's fights do double or triple the viewership of AJ's fights. Yes AJ's fights play earlier in the day, giving Wilder an unfair advantage, but that doesn't change the fact that Wilder is more popular here. AJ isn't well known in the US.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony
                      Whether you run multinational company or a company with just 5 employees the principle of securing a deal is still the same. I don’t care how succesful they are even the most successful people in business have egos and I can tell you from experience if someone wants to make you an offer but doesn’t like you and not necessarily bothered whether you accept the deal or not these are the hallmarks..... 24 hours to accept, accept in principle or no meeting. In the history of business or boxing when has that ever happened?
                      First of all, the deadline to accept was copied and pasted from Hearn's offer. Hearn's 12.5 million offer had a deadline to accept by the end of the next day. Which was ridiculous. So, as a bit of gamesmanship, the 50 million offer included an identical deadline. Why were AJ fans so upset when Finkel included the same exact deadline that Hearn had included? Where was the outrage after Hearn did it first?


                      Listen Hearn can be a **** and the likelihood he may have never accepted the deal even if it was 100 million but Shirley didn’t get to the position he is at thrashing out deals or using petty tactics as he did and I’m quite surprised you are trying to justify it by suggesting they are successful so they can.
                      Boxing negotiations are very simple in regards to the order things are done in. Until you've got some sort of understanding on the money, there's nothing else to discuss. Everything else falls in place after you've come to sort basic agreement in principle on how to split the loot. Until you have that, you have nothing.

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