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  • Left2body
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    #41
    Originally posted by Konstantin
    There was an article a little while ago that said Hatton would only fight PBF at 147 and Cotto at 140.
    No, I think your mistaking an interview with Hattons Trainer Billy Graham. In that interview he comments that Cotto is no longer a jrWelterweight and is actually a welterweight killing himself to go down to jrWelterweight. Graham then comments that Cotto should definitely move up to 147lbs.

    Then the interviewer ask him if he is interested in fighting Cotto at 147lbs and Graham looks at him like he is crazy and says that they would only fight Cotto at 140lbs.

    But Graham seems optimistic about Hatton vs PBF at 147lbs.

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    • JuicyJuice
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      #42
      Originally posted by Left2body
      No, I think your mistaking an interview with Hattons Trainer Billy Graham. In that interview he comments that Cotto is no longer a jrWelterweight and is actually a welterweight killing himself to go down to jrWelterweight. Graham then comments that Cotto should definitely move up to 147lbs.

      Then the interviewer ask him if he is interested in fighting Cotto at 147lbs and Graham looks at him like he is crazy and says that they would only fight Cotto at 140lbs.

      But Graham seems optimistic about Hatton vs PBF at 147lbs.
      No, that's bull****.

      Graham does not want Hatton fighting at 147. Period. He is DESPERATE for Hatton to fight Mayweather at 140, as he keeps saying time and time again. Why on earth would he want Hatton fighting at welterweight, when the guy is a ****ing JUNIOR-WELTERWEIGHT?

      And no he did not say that they'd only fight Cotto at 140, that's just a flat-out lie. He asked why they should fight Cotto at 147, when the fight can be made at 140, at Ricky's best weight. It's common sense.
      Last edited by JuicyJuice; 06-29-2006, 08:07 AM.

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        #43
        ''I never wanted him to move up to welterweight in the first place," Graham said while asserting his man deserved the unanimous decision. ''Ricky Hatton is the No. 1 junior welterweight [140 pounds] in the world. Why did TV insist he move up to 147? I argued against it, but no one listened. It was out of my bounds.

        ''You move up when you can't make weight. He makes the weight easily and can fight bell-to-bell for 12 rounds and be strong, but these days, to go down as an all-time great, you have to go through weight divisions. Why? I said when he was a young lad to him that he would dominate one class. He's a junior welterweight! Floyd Mayweather is a junior welterweight. You want that fight, make it at that weight.
        ''Too often the trainer is seen as a poor relation. They don't listen to him. But I know my kid. I'll make me voice heard before Ricky fights again."

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          #44
          Originally posted by JuicyJuice
          Tune-ups? What utter rubbish. Hatton said he wanted the experience of fighting in America first, what's wrong with that?

          I guess your just impatient.
          hatton has fought in usa before he fought collazo

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            #45
            Originally posted by JuicyJuice
            No, that's bull****.

            Graham does not want Hatton fighting at 147. Period. He is DESPERATE for Hatton to fight Mayweather at 140, as he keeps saying time and time again. Why on earth would he want Hatton fighting at welterweight, when the guy is a ****ing JUNIOR-WELTERWEIGHT?

            And no he did not say that they'd only fight Cotto at 140, that's just a flat-out lie. He asked why they should fight Cotto at 147, when the fight can be made at 140, at Ricky's best weight. It's common sense.
            I never said that he WANTED to move up to face PBF, all I said was that in the interview he is CONFIDENT and apparently optimistic at the prospect of fighitng PBF even at 147lbs.

            On your second point:

            Moving on, what of the other opponents out there, in or around Hatton's weight category? Miguel Cotto for example?

            "I think he is a great fighter, but he's a welterweight. He has got to move up to Welterweight NOW."

            And how does he think Ricky would fare against him at 147?

            "Why would we take the fight at 147?" he asks incredulously.

            At 140 then?
            That tells me that he would'nt fight Cotto at 147lbs even though he himself has acknowledged that Cotto shouldn't even be fighting at 140lbs anymore.

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              #46
              Here is another interview of Graham:

              Ricky Hatton's trainer Billy Graham says Miguel Cotto has a serious task ahead of him this weekend. "I think Cotto is a brilliant fighter," Graham said. "He's clever and he's lethal with his hooks. But he's not a junior welterweight, he shouldn't be there anymore, that is obvious. If he gets beat because he's struggling to make the weight this weekend it would be a travesty on the part of his management.....Cotto really hasn't got much in the tank - not at this weight. He's survived some rocky moments recently because of his talent, but he's getting into these situations in the first place because he's weak at the weight."
              Given all that he still appears that they would only fight Cotto at 140 and not 147lbs.

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                #47
                Originally posted by JuicyJuice
                Mayweather has always moved up through the weights, Hatton never has. Mayweather must have the structure to move up, while Hatton does not. In 1994 for example, Mayweather was at 106 and Hatton was at 139. Hatton has always been a light-welterweight, Mayweather has always moved through the weights.

                And Mayweather started using weights in the gym for the first time ever a few years ago to build himself upto 140. Hatton's been using weights since he was 14.

                So what? If Hatton is so much better at JWW why wouldn't he just train like does to make 140 for a fight with Mayweather at 147. Mayweather is the same size at WW as he is at Jww from what we've seen so far and there's no weigh in floor in boxing divisions. Hatton would still meet the requirements for a sanctioned Welterweight bout.
                Last edited by marlo; 06-29-2006, 09:21 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Black Jesus
                  These are illegitimate excuses. Period. People rip mayweather for this..and that..and this, yet Hatton gets a pass because he didint look good in his last fight? Come on.
                  Exactly. If Floyd had a subpar showing against a guy that wasn't currently ranked on most P4P lists he would get attacked viciously by "boxing experts" and fans alike.
                  Last edited by marlo; 06-29-2006, 09:22 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JuicyJuice
                    EXACTLY!

                    Ask Mayweather..

                    Ask Mayweather about what? The multiple times that Hatton turned him down for a fight at 140 before he made the decision to move up and fight the (then) Undisputed Welterweight champ?

                    ****ing dolt.

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                      #50
                      Dude, Hatton is demanding $13M to fight PBF, does that seem like a fighter who wants to fight PBF or one that's purposely pricing himself out of a match? Seems like he doesn't want to fight Floyd, if you ask me.

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