So Hatton avoids PBF for..Urkal?

[Left2body]

Ah man c'mon like if Floyd was a natural welter...

Bro your totally right here. Hatton's own camp admits that Mayweather tried to make a fight and Hattons people turn it down?

Originally Posted by JuicyJuice
Mayweather has always moved up through the weights, Hatton never has. Mayweather must have the structure to move up, while Hatton does not. In 1994 for example, Mayweather was at 106 and Hatton was at 139. Hatton has always been a light-welterweight, Mayweather has always moved through the weights.

And Mayweather started using weights in the gym for the first time ever a few years ago to build himself upto 140. Hatton's been using weights since he was 14.

That is more of a reason why PBF should be avoiding this fight not the other way around. The Reasons why Hatton isn't fighting PBF are starting to sound a lot like Excuses.

[JuicyJuice]

Look man, Hatton was (and is) The Man at 140lbs. Hatton/Mayweather at 140 was the biggest fight to be made in boxing, but Mayweather goes and moves up to 147 FFS.

[El Jesus]

Look man, Hatton is THE MAN at 140lbs. Hatton/Mayweather at 140 was the biggest fight to be made in boxing, but Mayweather goes and moves up to 147 FFS.

To tell you the truth, im starting to really believe mayweathers camp when they say they tried countless times to get the fight at 140.


Either way, Hattons management is treating their fighter like a ****ing child, and this is why his popularity here isnt exactly going to reach the rafters.

[JuicyJuice]

To tell you the truth, im starting to really believe mayweathers camp when they say they tried countless times to get the fight at 140.


Either way, Hattons management is treating their fighter like a ****ing child, and this is why his popularity here isnt exactly going to reach the rafters.

Yes, Ray Hatton did turn down Mayweather, in 2004. Mayweather saw Hatton look like **** against Vilches (due to sheer frustration at everybody avoiding him), and wanted to jump at the chance to fight Hatton at the MEN. Mayweather says Hatton would of been his 'money' fight while Tszyu would of been his 'legacy' fight, he wanted to fight Hatton and not Chop Chop Corley. But Ray turned the fight down for many reasons - Mayweather didn't hold a title at 140, Hatton had just looked disinterested and pissed against Vilches, Hatton was one fight away from a shot at the king of the division Kostya Tszyu, etc.

Mayweather apparently made an offer last year demanding 70/30. But Ray said in an interview last year that if somebody offered them the Mayweather fight 'just like that' then they'd take it straight away, so I don't know if Mayweather made offers or what.

[Azteca]

Either way, Hattons management is treating their fighter like a ****ing child, and this is why his popularity here isnt exactly going to reach the rafters.

i don't usually involve myself with petty arguments over the internet BUT you are incredibly ****** and naive.

hatton very well shouldn't fight outside of england with the revenue and capital he creates by fighting there, and over 20,000 screaming fans everytime you fight. i don't think you realize the kind of cash hatton was making. hatton is a multi-millionaire. why on earth would he leave that situation?

he left the situation he is in, because he wants some challenges. he has lived out his dream, anything past it is icing on the cake.

like it or lump it, hatton may not be the best fighter in boxing but he is one of the biggest commodities.

[Azteca]

re juicyjuice:
can you find me some proof on the 70/30 split that you are talking about. if it is true, that would mean mayweather was pricing himself out.

[Left2body]

Look man, Hatton was (and is) The Man at 140lbs. Hatton/Mayweather at 140 was the biggest fight to be made in boxing, but Mayweather goes and moves up to 147 FFS.

OMG that makes no sense. And FFS if Hatton was the Man at 140lbs why did he need Tune Ups?

Black Jesus I'm starting to believe that Hatton avoided PBF at 140lbs also. Hell Hatton even admitted he needed Tune ups before fighting PBF. In retrospect, I dont blame PBF, what did they want PBF to do? Wait at 140lbs till Hatton felt he was ready.

JuiceJuice by your logic if DLH went to 168 and offered to fight Taylor that fight would be a disadvantage to Taylor and Jermaine wouldn't take the fight?

Its the same Logic that you used; the naturally bigger man wont fight someone naturally smaller because its at a higher weight class

[JuicyJuice]

OMG that makes no sense. And FFS if Hatton was the Man at 140lbs why did he need Tune Ups?

Black Jesus I'm starting to believe that Hatton avoided PBF at 140lbs also. Hell Hatton even admitted he needed Tune ups before fighting PBF. In retrospect, I dont blame PBF, what did they want PBF to do? Wait at 140lbs till Hatton felt he was ready.

JuiceJuice by your logic if DLH went to 168 and offered to fight Taylor that fight would be a disadvantage to Taylor and Jermaine wouldn't take the fight?

Its the same Logic that you used; the naturally bigger man wont fight someone naturally smaller because its at a higher weight class

Tune-ups? What utter rubbish. Hatton said he wanted the experience of fighting in America first, what's wrong with that?

I guess your just impatient.

[El Jesus]

i don't usually involve myself with petty arguments over the internet BUT you are incredibly ****** and naive.

hatton very well shouldn't fight outside of england with the revenue and capital he creates by fighting there, and over 20,000 screaming fans everytime you fight. i don't think you realize the kind of cash hatton was making. hatton is a multi-millionaire. why on earth would he leave that situation?

he left the situation he is in, because he wants some challenges. he has lived out his dream, anything past it is icing on the cake.

like it or lump it, hatton may not be the best fighter in boxing but he is one of the biggest commodities.

If you dont want to involve yourself in a petty argument, calling me ****** and naive makes it that way, i dont know you, i never insulted you personally, and you yourself make it petty by being that way to me. Thankfully for you, i dont take any of that stuff with any merit, so ill just respond to your argument accordingly.

I do realize the kind of cash Hatton was making, filling the MEN arena fighting just about anyone indeed lured quite a bit of fans. His style and his nationality are a hot item in the area hes in, and yes, i do know he was making loads more in England. To assume i dont know that is just foolish on your own part.

Your saying he wants to "live a dream" and he wants some challanges, when PBF is essentially the best challange hes going to get, and a good showing win or lose is going to win him fans regardless. Nobody knows who the **** Urkal is for the most part, and for someone like Collazo, his stock rose while Hattons fell. Because of the good showing he had against an elite fighter.

I said his manegement is treating him like a child, how is that ****** and naive? Hes had his fight with Tszyu..Hes had his fight with Maussa, hes now had his fight with Collazo, what is he waiting for? How many tune-ups...title fights etc etc is he going to need until he fights mayweather? Unlike Margarito, Hatton is a name, Hatton brings something to the table, Hatton actually has a chance to beat Mayweather, yet his team just doesnt allow it.

I ask you again, what else is there to wait for, and what did my statement have anything to do with how much money he made in England and why he should have stayed there...thats more of a statement rather than a counter argument. Again...explain to me how that is ****** and naive.

[Left2body]

i don't usually involve myself with petty arguments over the internet BUT you are incredibly ****** and naive.

hatton very well shouldn't fight outside of england with the revenue and capital he creates by fighting there, and over 20,000 screaming fans everytime you fight. i don't think you realize the kind of cash hatton was making. hatton is a multi-millionaire. why on earth would he leave that situation?

he left the situation he is in, because he wants some challenges. he has lived out his dream, anything past it is icing on the cake.

like it or lump it, hatton may not be the best fighter in boxing but he is one of the biggest commodities.

Not trying to argue with you here but the reason why Hatton left England was for money and not challenge. There are huge PPV dollars available to popular fighters here in the states. The money Hatton receives from fights would only be compounded by him becoming popular in the Americas.

The American revenue would Add to his purse that he recieves from England and not substitute it.