Comments Thread For: Canelo-Golovkin: We Saw it Coming

[Robbie Barrett]

I'm not calling it a robbery either. Who is ? Best I can tell most media outlets are saying Golovkin edged a closely fought fight, which just happens to tally with my own opinion.

As for boxers and ex-boxers, as I said, evens out a bit.

Andre Ward: Alvarez
Claressa Shields: Alvarez
Manny Pacquiao: Golovkin
Roy Jones Jr: Draw
Manny Pacquiao: Golovkin
Lennox Lewis: Golovkin
Danny Jacobs: Golovkin
Terence Crawford: Golovkin
Barry Jones: Golovkin
Matthew Macklin: Golovkin
Anthony Fowler: Alvarez
David Haye: Alvarez
Carl Frampton: Golovkin
Robert Garcia: Alvarez
George Foreman: Alvarez
Richie Woodhall: Golovkin

And why would I want to watch xfactor ? I want to watch boxing where there is a scoring system that reflects what happens in the ring - how does that get extrapolated to watching the xfactor ?

Jalen Rose (Basketball player) summed it up nicely:

"Its unfortunate for boxing that we come to this show and say 'GGG has no way to win a decision in Vegas', that right there upsets the apple cart for the sport and it continues to hurt the popularity of it".

If I was a Canelo fan (vs a boxing fan) I'd be saying the same thing, but you don't seem to get that yet.

Pacquiao hasn't said who he thought won. Just making stuff up now.

[angkag]

Their fanbois along with most you gggstans because you have demonstrated to not know sh about boxing, otherwise you wouldn't be crying robbery after ggg got clobbered by a huge margin of power shots. Its as simple as that, ANYONE who says you win fights by getting heavily outlanded in power shots,& to the body by a deficit of 56 body shots to 6 doesn't know jack sh about pro boxing scoring. If you think the fighter who landed more weak jabs won the fight despite those FACTS then your just a biased clown.

Btw the judges who all were considered the absolute most skilled & experienced that boxing has to offer,the ones who dedicated their lives without pay for most of it,to boxing;those guys know how to score a fight & they all agree that if not for 3 of last 4 rds,ggg would've lost heavily, meaning Canelo was dominating til then on all cards,so the guys that actually score fights for a living they all agree with me.

How the eff do I get labeled a fanbois of Golovkin just because I thought he edged a close fight. Oh wait - 'anyone who thinks Canelo didn't win = gggstans fanbois'.

And who's crying robbery ? You're making up your own facts to support your own fanbois song.

Whenever a fanbois gets the benefit of a questionable decision, the judges always turn into 'the best', who are the only ones that understand boxing, therefore everyone else doesn't understand anything about boxing and is a 'opponenttard'.

Would love to get you in the same room with Stephen A Smith, Atlas, Doug Fischer and let you explain to them why they are gggtard fanbois who know jack about bosing, then watch your skin start hitting the walls as they rip your opinionated hide to little pieces.

[angkag]

Pacquiao hasn't said who he thought won. Just making stuff up now.

Manny Pacquiao

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I have GGG winning this fight! #CanelloGGG2

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Just denying facts to a whole new level now.

[Robbie Barrett]

Manny Pacquiao

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I have GGG winning this fight! #CanelloGGG2

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Just denying facts to a whole new level now.

That was his prediction.



https://twitter.com/mannypacquiao?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Want to try an twist something else?

[angkag]

That was his prediction.



https://twitter.com/mannypacquiao?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Want to try an twist something else?

I'll take out Pac for now until source confirmed. Thanks for that.

Barry Jones: 116-112 Golovkin
Steve Bunce: 114-114
BoxingScene: 114-114
The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
Bad Left Hook: 114-114, 116-112 Golovkin
MMA Fighting: 114-114
Lou DiBella: Golovkin
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): 115-114 Golovkin
Teddy Atlas: 117-112 Golovkin
Sports Illustrated (Rollins): 114-114
Joe Castagnino: 115-113 Golovkin
Sporting News: 116-112 Golovkin
SB Nation (Brady): Golovkin (no score given)
USA today: Golovkin 115-113
Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
Brian Campbell (CBS sports):*116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael (ESPN):*114-114 draw
Arash Markazi (ESPN):*114-114 draw
Brett Okamoto (ESPN):*114-114 draw
Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico):*114-114 draw
Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa):*116-112 Golovkin
Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph):*116-112 Golovkin
Josh Peter (USA Today):*115-113 Golovkin
Dylan Hernandez (LA Times):*115-113 Golovkin
Lance Pugmire (La Times):*114-114 draw
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports):*115-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports):*114-114 draw
Joe DePaolo (Washington Post):*115-113 Golovkin
Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine):*114-114 draw
Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine):*114-114 draw
Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network):*115-113 Golovkin
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports):*Golovkin won
Sherdog.com:*116-112 Golovkin
Jai Bednall (news.com.au):*115-113 Golovkin
Brian Mazique (Forbes):*114-114 draw
Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing):*115-113 Golovkin
Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook):*116-112 Golovkin
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow):*115-113 Golovkin
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow):*115-113 Golovkin
The Associated Press:*114-114 draw
Adam Caparell (Complex Sports):*116-112 Golovkin
Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer):*114-114 draw
Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News):*116-112 Golovkin
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly):*Canelo won
Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing):*115-113 Golovkin
Matt Christie (Boxing News):*115-114 Golovkin
George Willis (New York Post):*114-114 draw
Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada):*Golovkin won
Below The Belt Podcast:*115-113 Golovkin
World Boxing News:*115-113 Golovkin
Jeff Powell (Daily Mail):*116-113 Golovkin
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV):*114-114 draw
Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe):*115-113 Canelo
Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves):*115-113 Golovkin
Fight Nights:*115-113 Golovkin
Michael Woods (NYFights.com):*two point edge for Golovkin
Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times):*Golovkin won by 3 rounds
Rafael G (the Fight City):*116-112 Golovkin
Dazn Italy: 115-113 Golovkin


Boxers
Andre Ward: Alvarez
Claressa Shields: Alvarez
Roy Jones Jr: Draw
Lennox Lewis: Golovkin
Danny Jacobs: Golovkin
Terence Crawford: Golovkin
Barry Jones: Golovkin
Matthew Macklin: Golovkin
Anthony Fowler: Alvarez
David Haye: Alvarez
Carl Frampton: Golovkin
Robert Garcia: Alvarez
George Foreman: Alvarez
Richie Woodhall: Golovkin

[kushking]

How the eff do I get labeled a fanbois of Golovkin just because I thought he edged a close fight. Oh wait - 'anyone who thinks Canelo didn't win = gggstans fanbois'.

And who's crying robbery ? You're making up your own facts to support your own fanbois song.

Whenever a fanbois gets the benefit of a questionable decision, the judges always turn into 'the best', who are the only ones that understand boxing, therefore everyone else doesn't understand anything about boxing and is a 'opponenttard'.

Would love to get you in the same room with Stephen A Smith, Atlas, Doug Fischer and let you explain to them why they are gggtard fanbois who know jack about bosing, then watch your skin start hitting the walls as they rip your opinionated hide to little pieces.

You were the one defending the media when I said most them don't know jack sh about how to score a fight. And yes there is countless media stans & fanbois crying robbery,& you just in your last comment to someone else are claiming that even though you thought ggg just edged it,that it somehow is some injustice & that g cant win a decision in vegas. That all demonstrates how biased many actually are,stephen a on 1 video is arguing with Atlas that gggs jab was weak pitty pats & then he contradicts himself in another vid when trying to claim thats why g won. The fact that the biggest canelo haters claim it was a draw or a ggg 1 pt victory speaks volumes,& shows deep down they know he lost. Ggg & his trainer disgraced boxing after talking that mess then refusing to back it up,& "RUNNING" like they cried about. Canelo dominated ggg as said by Ward/RJJ/Spence/JCC snr nuff said. Scratch that,you also add charlo,& EVEN ABEL SANCHEZ ADMITTED GGG DESERVED TO LOSE

Heres RJJ saying ggg deserved to lose because of getting backed & bullied all night.

Heres Abel Sanchez admitting defeat(I got other vids in Spanish where he admitted more & said Canelo deserved the W after that amazing show.

Heres Ward saying"Canelo dominated ggg"


Heres Abel before the fight telling off a reporter 4 saying the truth"after rewatching 1st fight 4x,Canelo didn't run AT ALL,& he landed more body shots" abel snapped & pulled rank on reporter then claims Canelo didn't land hardly any body shots on ggg in 1st fight & reporter says "yes he did" so abel got angry & goes on to say ggg will heavily outland to the body supposedly "again"


Heres Spence/Charlo etc. Saying ggg deserved to lose

Heres where Stephen A contradicts everything from Ward video above & where Atlas loses control while demonstrating yet again what a great "white" hoper he truly is,Atlas lost all credibility when he was claiming Lomas #1 p4p for beating a few overmatched fighters & losing to 1 in a short ass Only wbo career(Arum basically owns WBO & bought lomas 1st belt),Atlas is the most biased clown in sports

[Boxingfanatic75]

You sure about that?

https://www.boxingscene.com/felix-tr...coverage--1137

It was far beyond that in this fight. Total landed (all punches) was 262 to 58 even if you remove the jabs (185) he still landed more and far more impactful might I add

[Boxingfanatic75]

I'll take out Pac for now until source confirmed. Thanks for that.

Barry Jones: 116-112 Golovkin
Steve Bunce: 114-114
BoxingScene: 114-114
The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
Bad Left Hook: 114-114, 116-112 Golovkin
MMA Fighting: 114-114
Lou DiBella: Golovkin
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): 115-114 Golovkin
Teddy Atlas: 117-112 Golovkin
Sports Illustrated (Rollins): 114-114
Joe Castagnino: 115-113 Golovkin
Sporting News: 116-112 Golovkin
SB Nation (Brady): Golovkin (no score given)
USA today: Golovkin 115-113
Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
Brian Campbell (CBS sports):*116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael (ESPN):*114-114 draw
Arash Markazi (ESPN):*114-114 draw
Brett Okamoto (ESPN):*114-114 draw
Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico):*114-114 draw
Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa):*116-112 Golovkin
Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph):*116-112 Golovkin
Josh Peter (USA Today):*115-113 Golovkin
Dylan Hernandez (LA Times):*115-113 Golovkin
Lance Pugmire (La Times):*114-114 draw
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports):*115-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports):*114-114 draw
Joe DePaolo (Washington Post):*115-113 Golovkin
Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine):*114-114 draw
Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine):*114-114 draw
Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network):*115-113 Golovkin
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports):*Golovkin won
Sherdog.com:*116-112 Golovkin
Jai Bednall (news.com.au):*115-113 Golovkin
Brian Mazique (Forbes):*114-114 draw
Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing):*115-113 Golovkin
Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook):*116-112 Golovkin
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow):*115-113 Golovkin
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow):*115-113 Golovkin
The Associated Press:*114-114 draw
Adam Caparell (Complex Sports):*116-112 Golovkin
Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer):*114-114 draw
Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News):*116-112 Golovkin
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly):*Canelo won
Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing):*115-113 Golovkin
Matt Christie (Boxing News):*115-114 Golovkin
George Willis (New York Post):*114-114 draw
Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada):*Golovkin won
Below The Belt Podcast:*115-113 Golovkin
World Boxing News:*115-113 Golovkin
Jeff Powell (Daily Mail):*116-113 Golovkin
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV):*114-114 draw
Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe):*115-113 Canelo
Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves):*115-113 Golovkin
Fight Nights:*115-113 Golovkin
Michael Woods (NYFights.com):*two point edge for Golovkin
Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times):*Golovkin won by 3 rounds
Rafael G (the Fight City):*116-112 Golovkin
Dazn Italy: 115-113 Golovkin


Boxers
Andre Ward: Alvarez
Claressa Shields: Alvarez
Roy Jones Jr: Draw
Lennox Lewis: Golovkin
Danny Jacobs: Golovkin
Terence Crawford: Golovkin
Barry Jones: Golovkin
Matthew Macklin: Golovkin
Anthony Fowler: Alvarez
David Haye: Alvarez
Carl Frampton: Golovkin
Robert Garcia: Alvarez
George Foreman: Alvarez
Richie Woodhall: Golovkin

It’s funny the vast majority who scored this was either a draw or within one round. So, therefore it isn’t far fetched that two judges saw it 115-113 in the other direction

[Vasyl’s dad]

It was far beyond that in this fight. Total landed (all punches) was 262 to 58 even if you remove the jabs (185) he still landed more and far more impactful might I add

This is what you said. “A jab alone with an occasional power shot will not win fights EVER and especially on this stage.“


Now its far beyond?

[Boxingfanatic75]

And please remind me why you omit that Canelo was also visibly gassed in the third quarter of the fight.

Way I saw it was Golovkin tired early, then regrouped; Canelo tired late, then regrouped.

I don't see any material difference in 'who out-tired who battle except they tired at different times, and largely fought through it, only giving up temporary advantage to the other. Canelo's strongest rounds were when Golovkin was exhibiting tiredness, and Golovkin's strongest rounds were when Canelo was exhibiting tiredness. But both regrouped and got back in to it.

Canelo landed the better body shots, but they weren't clearly effective in sapping Golovkin late in the fight, as he didn't. What I saw was one round where Canelo landed a body shot that I think hurt Golovkin, and gave Canelo a clear edge in that round where Golovkin went into cover-up mode a lot more - now THAT body shot, or series of them, was effective, but only in that round. Sure Golovkin may have had even more energy later but for the body work, so maybe it was effective in sapping energy, but they both matched each other for energy (or tiredness) in the 12th.

They both had eye damage from head clashes, but Golovkin's blackening around the right eye was from that punch Canelo landed in the 2nd - didn't see much else to read into facial damage - that punch in round 2 gave Canelo a clear round in an otherwise tight one, so he got credit for it on the cards imo.

If you don't like people who use the jab effectively, then I guess Ward, Floyd, Klit and JMM aren't your cup of tea either - they all used the jab a LOT to set up their other work.

He was not gasping for air as GGG was but that’s neither here nor there. Canelo took the fight to him and literally battered him for the entire fight. While GGG did fight well it wasn’t enough as the rightful fighter had his hand raised in the end