Will Golovkin retire as an all time great?

[JohnCastellanos]

Hes already an ATG in my eyes, so if he retired tomorrow yes.

You have some reallly low standards! I’m not even curious to see your wife

[JohnCastellanos]

I already consider him one of the all time greats at middleweight, but let's say he hypothetically beats Canelo, then Saunders, then Jacobs to unify all the belts.

Then he's got an argument for top 5 ever.

He didn’t even want to fight Lara orDerynchenko! Bro he just said in an interview that boxing is a business! What makes you even have hope that he’s willing to risk anything?

[New England]

Easily fits in. Marvin didnt get his shot til his 50th or so fight. Hopkins resume at 160 might be worse than Golovkins.

golovkin will not get credit historically for figths and wins he does not have. his best win is danny f#cking jacobs. you are not worth the time it takes to put together a 25-50 word word response if you don't recognize how out of place that looks compared to monzon, hagler, hopkins, robinson, and harry f#ckin greb.

[New England]

I already consider him one of the all time greats at middleweight, but let's say he hypothetically beats Canelo, then Saunders, then Jacobs to unify all the belts.

Then he's got an argument for top 5 ever.

let's hear your argument.

who are the best 5 MW ever?

what did they accomplish?

and why do you rate golovkin over them?


this will be hysterical.

[Vasyl’s dad]

golovkin will not get credit historically for figths and wins he does not have. his best win is danny f#cking jacobs. you are not worth the time it takes to put together a 25-50 word word response if you don't recognize how out of place that looks compared to monzon, hagler, hopkins, robinson, and harry f#ckin greb.

Never said he would have gotten credit for fights he didnt get. But Haglers and Hopkins best wins at 160 are against guys who came from lower divisions, no? Hagler didnt get his title shot til his 49th fight. Then he quit the sport at 32 years old. Golovkin is fighting prime middleweights in his mid 30s. Why exactly would he not belong if he keeps winning? Hopkins didnt move up til he was 40. Doesnt seem to hurt his standing.

[Vasyl’s dad]

He didn’t even want to fight Lara orDerynchenko! Bro he just said in an interview that boxing is a business! What makes you even have hope that he’s willing to risk anything?

People complain that he fought Brooks and Vanes. Why would fighting Lara be any different?

[filup79]

Exactly. Even Hopkins best wins at 160 were against smaller guys. Thats why its laughable to see both Hs praised for their work at 160 and Golovkin ripped apart. Hagler and Golovkin are very similar in how their careers played out.

I believe its because GGG hasn't gone out of his comfort zone or way to make some possible big fights. He has settled for whoever was available to fight him at his weight. He never chose to chase a big fight at 168 with any of the champs or come down to 154. All the belts are nice but its not like he beat top tier fighters for them. He could have easily chased a fight at 168 with Ward, or any of the champs there instead of fighting useless fights.

[dan_cov]

No he won't, he might get in the HOF though.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I believe its because GGG hasn't gone out of his comfort zone or way to make some possible big fights. He has settled for whoever was available to fight him at his weight. He never chose to chase a big fight at 168 with any of the champs or come down to 154. All the belts are nice but its not like he beat top tier fighters for them. He could have easily chased a fight at 168 with Ward, or any of the champs there instead of fighting useless fights.

I dont recall Hopkins or Hagler going out of their comfort zone either. Hagler straight up just quit. Hopkins waited til he was 40.

[Eff Pandas]

All time great is subjective & kinda bs so who cares. GGG was among the best of his day & looking at his career closer it seems he was cheated of the ability to reach his full potential by the best guys in his division not wanting to fight him at all or sooner than they did + his early promotional choices. But all you can be is the best of your time. Everything else is my dad can beat up your dad child-like bs.

And randomly as a fan of boxing I sorta hate how boxing works. The top guys in any division should be in a pool of fighters by themselves & there isn't any business or politics that can get in the way from the best reaching their max potential by fighting each other. Boxing at the tip top should be as competitive as staying in a starting position in the NFL. There are only so many slots & your position is always up for grabs if you get caught slipping or father time comes for your ass. I think if at some future date boxing does take on a more logical structure for fans, boxers & entertainment people will look back on these times as awful times for the sport overall.