Will Golovkin retire as an all time great?

[New England]

hell no!

the guy spent a good deal of his prime in the amateurs and in europe in obscurity. when he first got to the US nobody would fight him, and you can't rate a guy entirely based on who he was ducked by, it just gets too subjective.

yes, he was a very good middleweight with a good run. ATG? no f#cking way! marvin hagler, carlos monzon, bernard hopkins, harry greb, sugar ray robinson. does gennady golovkin fit in with those guys ?

[filup79]

Now a days, the standards in boxing have been set very low. People now consider fighters who have 1 or 2 good names on their resume ATGs and Hall of Famers.

[Boxing42]

It depends on your own personal criteria of all-time great. Mine is strict. Now, let's say he gets passed Canelo as the odds makers think he will, he'll have a divisional record of 21 defenses and I think would be favored to gobble up Charlo and probably beat the winners of Jacobs-Dereyvchenko & Andrade-Saunders he'd have the potential to even hold most successful defenses across any weight class I think that would qualify him but doesn't mean he's a surefire ATG.

IMO he'll lose by GBP decision to Canelo and then it's an uphill battle because the opposition isn't there and he's already peaked so I'll say no but he'll be in the IBHOF for certain.

My personal references going off modern era just using a dozen retired names.

ATG's - Jones, Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather

Great fighters - Toney, Morales, Barrera, Calzaghe

Not quite great but very, very, very good - De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Wladimir Klit

There's probably around 75-80 fighters I'd consider all-time greats in the entire HISTORY of the sport.

im not trolling but you take his regular title defenses that serious?

[abracada]

If Golovkin beats Canelo will he be an all time great? If he loses to Canelo will he be one?

If he wins in spectacular fashion eg brutal KO round 1 yes, ATG

[Jimmy 23]

GGG will retire as the most overrated fighter of 2010s

[Madison Boxing]

If he does a serious job on canelo then possibly. If not I still think needs another name on his resume, Saunders/Andrade winner potentially

[Ray Corso]

Not an ATG1 an "all time great"!
However an ATG2, "all time good"!

The word great has lost it's meaning during the past 30 years.
Ray

[The Big Dunn]

If he does a serious job on canelo then possibly. If not I still think needs another name on his resume, Saunders/Andrade winner potentially

adding saunders or Andrade to that resume makes him an ATG. You should be ashamed of yourself for even posting that.

[abracada]

If he does a serious job on canelo then possibly. If not I still think needs another name on his resume, Saunders/Andrade winner potentially

Who knows it may happen, GGG appears very angry!

[Madison Boxing]

adding saunders or Andrade to that resume makes him an ATG. You should be ashamed of yourself for even posting that.

No clown, it isn't a defining win but if he beats winner of that then he's basicalkybfought everyone there was to beat, what more is he meant to do.