Will Golovkin retire as an all time great?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cuz Lou DiBella basically said there was no way Sergio Martinez would fight GGG back in the day. Cuz all the big names who were close to fighting GGG back when GGG was younger fell through for this reason or that reason that seemed beyond his control.

Everything that could go wrong with GGG's stepping into the mainstream boxing arena sooner seemed to go wrong. GGG coulda been on the level with the mainstream fans like he is now so much sooner in his trajectory in this sport & thats one of the things thats a disappointment to me about boxing.

You gotta be a businessman & a boxer in this sport when in most other sports if you are merely a high level athlete you & the fans get to find out how good you are at a much quicker pace or at all cuz many a boxer in this sport has been f#cked over or had their success minimized early on cuz of who they knew or who they didn't know.

Boxing should be about what happens in the ring not what happens out of it is all I'm saying & boxing will be a better sport when thats the reality like its a reality in most other major sports.

And this starts long before the pros.

[Sun_Tzu]

I think you just know it when a fighter is an ATG. He is the best in MW division right now and has been for years but time isnt on his side. If he clobbers Canelo its a step in the right direction for sure but I think it will take a few more big wins to put that ATG stamp on him. I really like Golovkin in and out of the ring but real is real.

[icha]

he should be, i mean "anyone from 154 to 168" , "all the belts", "im not a businessman"..
what else can you ask from a fighter? ...

[Curt Henning]

he should be, i mean "anyone from 154 to 168" , "all the belts", "im not a businessman"..
what else can you ask from a fighter? ...

totally...talking the talk is what its all about!

[JohnCastellanos]

People complain that he fought Brooks and Vanes. Why would fighting Lara be any different?

Lara called ggg out prior to Brooks or Vanes even being a thought! This was fresh in time for his famous promise of fighting anyone from 154 to 168! But post Canelo and the problem ggg has with moving target it is obvious ggg didn’t want Lara exposing his weakness! But Ggg ducked Lara

[Larry the boss]

no...............

[Leonis]

hell no!

the guy spent a good deal of his prime in the amateurs and in europe in obscurity. when he first got to the US nobody would fight him, and you can't rate a guy entirely based on who he was ducked by, it just gets too subjective.

yes, he was a very good middleweight with a good run. ATG? no f#cking way! marvin hagler, carlos monzon, bernard hopkins, harry greb, sugar ray robinson. does gennady golovkin fit in with those guys ?

Yes Golovkin certainly fits in with this guys,Bernard Hopkins doesnt.

[Death_Adder]

No he's not going to go down as an ATG. Avoided any type of challenges, a padded KO record, never moved up to chase greatness.

He'll go down as a footnote when it's all said and done.

[Leonis]

Hagler would be crucified on this forum if he was an active fighter today.

Pretty much every big win he had were against men that started at much smaller weights than him. Actually he'd have probably been labeled a bum for them earlier draws and losses...

Today, that's enough to get called a hypejob, bum, weight bully or whatever else.

hagler had losses to c level fighters and all his big wins were against smaller guys but still there are people who rank him above Monzon.. lol
I was watching his first fight against little Antuaferno the other day who was chasing Hagler around the ring. I couldnt see GGG going 15 rounds with such a small guy

[siablo14]

If Golovkin beats Canelo will he be an all time great? If he loses to Canelo will he be one?

Nope...........