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  • IMDAZED
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    #71
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    I don't care what the specific article said You don't have to be a genius to understand that buying airtime wasn't a great idea - and he pissed away an enormous amount of money, in order to get others out of the market. And he failed miserably as the competition grew stronger and the losses he took were astronomic, as was evident by the lack of airtime bought in the last two years compared to the first few years. If something works, you keep doing it - About the first thing you learn in business school is to double down on the winner.

    You're a Haymon fangirl. I get it. It's okay to want him to succeed - But you can't dispute the facts, and that is that the PBC brand is dead. If you took it away and just staged fights, no one beyond boxing fans would care or even notice. And has that been worth 600+ million in expenses? No.

    Maybe in your mind it does, but since the investors that backed the PBC project refused to invest any more cash, clearly they don't.

    But it's great they made a deal with Fox - This has been known for weeks though. So it's not news to me. But the more boxing the better - it doesn't take away from the fact that it has been a massive failure so far and it has no impression on the american or any other public, at all.

    And with regards to me having an MBA, I don't really care what a simple fanboy like you believe or don't believe to be honest But I can send you my CV, Linkedin and several sources showing my credentials.
    Why do you keep saying $600m when no one knows how much he was given and what the terms of the deal are?

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    • LacedUp
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      #72
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Why do you keep saying $600m when no one knows how much he was given and what the terms of the deal are?


      SEC filing.

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        #73
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Uhh yeah...and how do you know that PBC is the only company being funded in those series'?

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          #74
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Uhh yeah...and how do you know that PBC is the only company being funded in those series'?
          Because it literally came through a subpoena in regards to the investments made by those funds into Haymon's company Haymon Sports that handles the PBC brand, under the Haymon Holding.

          Let's not go into ******ities here, please.
          Last edited by LacedUp; 09-05-2018, 01:06 AM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Because it literally came through a subpoena in regards to the investments made by those funds into Haymon's company Haymon Sports that handles the PBC brand, under the Haymon Holding.

            Let's not go into ******ities here, please.
            Read my question again.

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              #76
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              but it doesn't mean anything other than Haymon making shows on Showtime.

              If you removed the PBC branding from everything, no one would notice or care.
              September 4, 2018:

              Report: New PBC, FOX Deal Finalized For FOX, FS1 Broadcasts

              Al Haymon’s long-rumored new deal with FOX reportedly has been completed. According to a Ringtv.com story posted Tuesday, Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions has reached an agreement with FOX to televise PBC cards on FOX and FS1. The new commitment, which reportedly will include 10 shows on FOX and at least 12 additional FS1 telecasts, will go into effect in December.


              It is what it is!

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                #77
                Good luck to Hearn with that sh^t. I'm not sure who's out there to sign with HBO still paying Canelo & GGG. Bobby Arum having that nice ESPN money to pay his guys. And now Haymon/PBC gots some cash to pay those guys between the Fox & Showtime deals.

                Who's the best unaffiliated guys (non-HBO/PBC/TR guys)? Is there a "flagship" guy to pick up??? I guess Usyk is pickupable maybe. I'm not sure his situation & the WBSS tournament really upped his profile quite a bit, but I still say its hard to push a non-American/non-Latino fighter in the US. Only Lennox Lewis, Manny & GGG have gotten THAT big in the last few decades.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  September 4, 2018:

                  Report: New PBC, FOX Deal Finalized For FOX, FS1 Broadcasts

                  Al Haymon’s long-rumored new deal with FOX reportedly has been completed. According to a Ringtv.com story posted Tuesday, Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions has reached an agreement with FOX to televise PBC cards on FOX and FS1. The new commitment, which reportedly will include 10 shows on FOX and at least 12 additional FS1 telecasts, will go into effect in December.


                  It is what it is!
                  My whole point is that the PBC project failed, not that they can't put on a fight.

                  Would people care or notice if the PBC brand completely disappeared from the shows?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    the PBC project failed
                    PBC now has the biggest budget in the history of boxing. All made possible by the leverage and proof of concept created by the time buys.

                    Making the experiment a great success.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      Good luck to Hearn with that sh^t. I'm not sure who's out there to sign with HBO still paying Canelo & GGG. Bobby Arum having that nice ESPN money to pay his guys. And now Haymon/PBC gots some cash to pay those guys between the Fox & Showtime deals.

                      Who's the best unaffiliated guys (non-HBO/PBC/TR guys)? Is there a "flagship" guy to pick up??? I guess Usyk is pickupable maybe. I'm not sure his situation & the WBSS tournament really upped his profile quite a bit, but I still say its hard to push a non-American/non-Latino fighter in the US. Only Lennox Lewis, Manny & GGG have gotten THAT big in the last few decades.
                      If I was to plot out a year for him, hed want to try and get Pacquiao for a couple of fights. Sign Usyk, throw the bank at Ward to come out for a swansong. Get the Alvarez/Kovalev 2 fight for DAZN, sign Bivol, with Beterbiev got a couple of unifications. Jacobs/Derevyanchenko winner vs BJS/Andrade winner. Don't know what Golovkins situation with HBO should he win, what did HBO put up for his last fight $1.5m? Hearn would put up a ton more for a Golovkin fight, if possible.

                      Got headline fights for cards, has to concentrate on quality, buy up what he can from smaller promoters. Lets not forget, for arguments sake DAZN and Fox/Showtime are both putting up the same budget for the year. Except Hearn's is for 16 cards, PBC have to produce 50 cards on the same budget. Quality is the main thing for Hearn now.

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