Comments Thread For: Hearn Predicts: Flagship US Fighters Will Come To Matchroom

[bballchump11]

But their investors said they lost 650.

That takes into account their revenues.

But even so, I'm still asking if anyone would ever care if PBC completely disappeared from earth? No one would because the product didn't deliver what it was intended to do. It changed nothing.

You know how many international brands on Nasdaq that were created with 1/20th of what PBC wasted in the space of 2-3 years? You'd be very surprised.

We'll see what you think once these 4 years are up and FOX offers them an extension for even more money and the PBC is able to create multiple ppv stars. (Hypothetical I know).

They obviously made this investment thinking 10 years in the future.

[deanrw]

Well if he signs Flores, I’ll be concerned

Hey he needs opponents for AJ remember LOL

[IMDAZED]

Hey he needs opponents for AJ remember LOL

[LacedUp]

We'll see what you think once these 4 years are up and FOX offers them an extension for even more money and the PBC is able to create multiple ppv stars. (Hypothetical I know).

They obviously made this investment thinking 10 years in the future.

So your measurement of success for Haymon as pioneer of boxing on free-to-air TV is number of PPV stars?

Somehow that doesn't make any sense whatsoever

The FOX deal is really good, but it'll show small shows, similar to the UFC did.

[bballchump11]

So your measurement of success for Haymon as pioneer of free-to-air TV is number of PPV stars?

Somehow that doesn't make any sense whatsoever

The FOX deal is really good, but it'll show small shows, similar to the UFC did.

That's just one of the measures of success. And I can tolerate a couple ppvs for more fights on FOX. Plus I like the big fight atmosphere that those fights bring. Vegas gets crazy.

[LacedUp]

We were in the Mayweather/Pacquiao PPV era before Al Haymon brought boxing back to network TV! Everyone acts like that was no big thing but it was HUGE, especially in the states! PBC brought boxing back to NBC and CBS which hadn't been done in years! Now, because of Haymon leading the way, we have boxing on ESPN, FOX, FS1, etc.! Other than Floyd, I can't remember the last time I had to cough up $70 for a PPV on Showtime! That's change, and if you can't see that. it's because you're blinded by hate! Oscar tried to stop it, and failed! Arum tried to stop it, and failed! Just remember the next time you watch boxing on network TV, remember that it was the PBC that led the way!

http://thaboxingvoice.com/haymon-to-bring-boxing-back-to-free-television-deal-aims-to-do-away-with-ppv/

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...makes-his-move

Ok - And who did you cough up 79 dollars for in the previous eight years on showtime other than Floyd? Cotto-Mayorga is the only PPV fight I can think of who could have been on Showtime boxing today.

They barely ever did any PPVs not involving Floyd in the last 5 years, and HBO has continued with their PPVs just like they did before. Showtime will now start doing PPV with Garcia/Spence, Wilder/Fury etc. So your argument is heavily flawed.

Yes they did show fights on network for a few years. When is the last time a big fight was on network TV? Thurman vs Garcia maybe? that's what, nearly two years ago?

Clearly that's not the way forward and they know that - but at least they'll do the fox shows now. It'll be interesting to see which fighters fight on fox. My guess is they'll use it as an exposure platform, which in itself isn't bad there's just nothing new about it.

At the end of the day, with PBC you'll have to pay to watch their championship fights - either through Showtime or on PPV. So yes, as I said, the PBC idea clearly failed and it was expensive.

That doesn't mean Haymon can't put on good fights still. I never said he couldn't, hasn't or won't in the future.

[LacedUp]

That's just one of the measures of success. And I can tolerate a couple ppvs for more fights on FOX. Plus I like the big fight atmosphere that those fights bring. Vegas gets crazy.

I like it too. I have nothing against PPVs.

So this is what I don't get. I say PBC has failed as a project and then I get the predictable fanboys like IMDAZED coming in here throwing a hissyfit like a little girl and get told that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Yet the argument against it is the success of PPV? PBC was meant to do two things:

1. Take away the significance of governing bodies and create its own significance
2. Bring boxing to the public for free

They tried both and failed. It didn't work and now they've reverted back to the practices invented in the 1980s by Don King.

If they wanted to do exactly what they're doing now, they would have just done it in 2013, and saved themselves a 650million loss.

[Motorcity Cobra]

We'll see what you think once these 4 years are up and FOX offers them an extension for even more money and the PBC is able to create multiple ppv stars. (Hypothetical I know).

They obviously made this investment thinking 10 years in the future.

It's amazing how short sighted people are. PBC began in what, 2015? Three years is a short period of time when it comes to investments. Investors look at the long term. They're looking 10-15 years ahead.

Another thing is people saying PBC failed when the goal of PBC was to get a network to pay for the fights and that's exactly what they got.

As another poster explained the time buys across differing networks was to gain data points to bring to a potential network and show them there is an audience for boxing. And if they buy into it they can grow the sport. PBC is in as good a place right now as the UFC was when they got their Fox Deal.

[LacedUp]

It's amazing how short sighted people are. PBC began in what, 2015? Three years is a short period of time when it comes to investments. Investors look at the long term. They're looking 10-15 years ahead.

Another thing is people saying PBC failed when the goal of PBC was to get a network to pay for the fights and that's exactly what they got.

As another poster explained the time buys across differing networks was to gain data points to bring to a potential network and show them there is an audience for boxing. And if they buy into it they can grow the sport. PBC is in as good a place right now as the UFC was when they got their Fox Deal.

Hahahaha short sighted? First of all, it began in 2013, second of all - didn’t you make a thread the other day criticizing Eddie hearn and DAZN? 😂😂

They haven’t even had their first show yet!

Man talking about hypocrisy of the very highest level.

Fanboys at their finest!

[Motorcity Cobra]

Hahahaha short sighted? First of all, it began in 2013, second of all - didn’t you make a thread the other day criticizing Eddie hearn and DAZN? 😂😂

They haven’t even had their first show yet!

Man talking about hypocrisy of the very highest level.

Fanboys at their finest!

They began planning in 2013 and began airing in 2015.

There is nothing radical about the Hearn-DAZN deal. Its a basic licensing fee deal on a new platform. We've seen this before. The time buy was a new strategy we hadn't seen before.

On the surface it's easy to predict what'll happen with DAZN in the US. I'm not just talking about Hearn but DAZN as a whole. They won't be successful without rights to a major US sport. And the names they have for boxing aren't big enough to gain a lot of subscribers. Its common sense.