Comments Thread For: Jacobs: Golovkin Isn't Afraid of Derevyanchenko; Just Business

[BirdSong]

"And, three, he (GGG) deserves credit for overcoming Jacobs even if it wasn’t his best performance. The talented New Yorker reportedly entered the ring at around 180 pounds, which technically made him a cruiserweight."

https://www.boxingscene.com/gennady-golovkin-still-time-enhance-his-legacy--131219

I can't wait to see Jacobs' 2nd day weigh-in, and how that might affect him vs. Derevyanchenko!

Surely it must be a good idea for all belts to enforce a limit on fight night weight, i mean its a boxing match not a re hydration competition. That has always irritated me.

[Jab jab boom]

The ggg is scared of dervy thing is just an excuse for canelo fans to try and justify Canelos 2 yrs of ducking ggg by saying, see, ggg was scared of him and ducked him. Anyone with common sense knows that the 2 situations are completely different. One was business, the other was fear on the promotors part because they took 3 fights for less money and tarnished their reputation amongst real fans in the process. So that's not good business.

[Floyd is TBE]

97G is full of **** and has always been full of ****. He never cared about the belts

[Bronx2245]

If you havent noticed yet Canelo is still ranked higher in MW ratings like boxrec for example, thats what motivates Golovkin and pisses him off, he was dominating the division and still doesnt consider by someone as the best at least at his weight

If I was GGG, I would be pissed that Canelo is ranked higher at MW by anyone! That's ridiculous! Cotto @ 155, Khan @ 155, Smith @ 155, and JCC Jr., doesn't make Canelo a better MW! On the flip side, Trout, Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, and Cotto, give Canelo a better ranking on a P4P list!

[robbyheartbaby]

Man haters gonna hate. People were giving G s*** for making a mandatory against Wade then calling him a b**** for not making a mandatory with that Ukrainian bum. Once Jacobs taps that you will realise Jacobs is right.

[Satir]

GGG-Derevyanchenko's much bigger story and fight then just a replacement of unprofessional Canelo that needed diffrent promotion due to a different crowd, moving to NY etc and certanly needed more than 3-4 weeks and 1,5 mil

[Bronx2245]

Surely it must be a good idea for all belts to enforce a limit on fight night weight, i mean its a boxing match not a re hydration competition. That has always irritated me.

You might be interested in this:

The Weighting Game: California State Athletic Commission Exclusive

By Caryn A. Tate on July 12, 2018

Of course, the crux of the issue is that many fighters are trying to squeeze down to make the lowest possible weight they can, regardless of safety, in order to have a size advantage over their opponent. It’s understandable. A fighter’s job is to defeat the opposition any legal way they can. And boxing has allowed weight-cutting—including drastic cuts—to remain legal, with no real repercussions for the fighters who may miss weight or rehydrate a dramatic amount overnight. The only common penalties for missing weight are the loss of the opportunity to fight for the world title (if it was on the line); the loss of the world title if the fighter who missed weight was the champion; and the offending fighter being forced to pay their opponent and/or the commission.

In short: the heavy fighter can simply pay to be bigger than the contracted weight.

Typically, the fight takes place anyway, though the opponent usually has the right to choose to cancel the bout since there was a breach of contract. The injured party often doesn’t want to be denied the payday (for himself or his team) or the opportunity, particularly after enduring eight weeks of arduous training camp, often away from his family, preparing for the contest.

Keep in mind, too, that when this decision must be made, it is the fighter’s decision on paper; however, managers and promoters are always involved, and sanctioning bodies and television networks frequently have money on the line too, so one has to consider how much pressure the boxer is under to go through with the fight.

The CSAC is striving to use the data it has collected over the years, combined with medical research showing the connection between severe weight-cutting and an increase in danger of concussion and brain trauma, to work together with the sanctioning bodies to establish more effective rules surrounding the weight issue. This will, Foster hopes, make the sport safer for the athletes whose already brief careers are often being cut even shorter by dangerous weight cuts combined with inevitable blows to the head.

The 10-point plan details specific recommendations for combat sports taking place in the state of California. It includes making the second weight check an official thing for 10- and 12-round bouts. Said Foster, “Our 10-point plan document [asks], ‘What’s the lowest weight class that you intend to compete in?’ Then the doctor has to sign off on that. That’s one of our proposals.”

Foster and team will discuss their 10-point plan at the CSAC meeting on July 24. Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, later in July, Foster will be bringing specific recommendations for ratings changes to the conference of the Association of Boxing Commissions and Combative Sports (ABC) for a vote.

Foster also serves as the chair of the medical committee of the ABC. The committee is recommending a ratings criteria change with the organization that states that a second-day weigh-in be required for 10- or 12-round championship bouts, and that boxers cannot exceed 10% of their contracted weight; a minimum fine for missing weight on either day of at least 10% of the offender’s purse that shall go to the other boxer; and that any rated boxer who exceeds the contracted weight for any championship bout should be removed from the ratings of all sanctioning bodies and won’t be ranked in that weight class until he/she makes weight in that division in a future bout. If the ABC chooses to adopt the proposal, the changes will take effect on January 1, 2019. According to Foster, the authority for this proposal comes from the Muhammad Ali Act, which first and foremost protects the rights and welfare of boxers.

http://www.boxing.com/the_weighting_game_california_state_athletic_commission_exclusive.html

[chubuk7]

97G is full of **** and has always been full of ****. He never cared about the belts

There’s an eight-figure number on the table for Golovkin. Remember 55-45 and let’s stop with this "belts" nonsense.

[ThatDude44]

April 18, 2016:

“Fighting Amir Khan, then maybe [Manny] Pacquiao...hey, listen, Canelo, I have double the championship belts,” Golovkin said to the Los Angeles Times. “Make the fight with me. It’s a good fight for us. Not an easy fight. Everyone understands that. But then next...you can bring on Manny or Floyd [Mayweather]. For me, it’s about who’s the best? Who’s No. 1 in the division? That’s what’s No. 1 to me. Second is money.”

“Yes, I understand that [a loss would hurt his brand],” Golovkin told The Times. “I understand this decision is maybe 20 percent Canelo’s and 80 percent [his promoter], Golden Boy. It’s business, but it’s not respectful of boxing. Everyone says Canelo is a great champion, the idol of Mexico. The idol for what? For boxing? No. Or as a businessman? Right now, he looks like a businessman.”

https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/ggg-to-canelo-i-understand-youre-a-businessmanbut-lets-go-fight/

Who looks like a "businessman" now? First he chooses Vanes over Dervy, then he drops a belt to rematch a guy without a belt! Jacobs is right, GGG is not afraid of Dervy, it's all about business!

Lol, oh the fax!

[BirdSong]

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The Weighting Game: California State Athletic Commission Exclusive

Thats a good article alrite