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  • Jab jab boom
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    #71
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    how could you possibly know that ?

    you interviewed each and every one of them ?

    bollocks..... cool story bro

    I got a better story.....

    Golovkin fans are mostly pacfans/casuals who needed a new hero..... and like Pacquiao, Golovkin has given reasonable knowledgeable fans PLENTY of reasons not to support him..... the lies and the cherry-picking being the first that spring to mind..... the blatant disrespect for the sport/fighters being another

    Mexicans should feel scornful of Golovkin for treating them like gullible clowns when he pulled that "Mexican warrior doe" bullshht

    it is OBVIOUSLY a gimmick
    Yet Mexican fans cheered ggg after his fight with Canelo and bood canelo. Why do you think that is? And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that most of Canelos fans who support him blindly on here only do so because they share his ethnicity. You think these same fans would support ggg, cotto, ward, mayweather or any other boxer if any of them had tested positive for peds? Or if they dropped a title instead of facing a mandatory that they knew about for over a year?

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    • livershot73
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      #72
      ‘Mexicans For Golovkin’ and ‘Mexicans For Pacquiao,’ that’s all it is. It’s a gimmick.”

      Hang on Dela Whore-ah ...didn’t Mexicans BOO your cheating puto LOUDLY when he opened his trap to ***** & moan during the post fight interviews?

      And didn’t Pacquiao RETIRE YOUR DIVA ASS?

      I didn’t know you needed cynicism to sell fights! Lol

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      • Catrin
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        #73
        Originally posted by Robi13
        Canelo has fans and critics on both sides of the boarder tell the truth. Plus, regardless of what you say... Numbers dont lie, the man sells... Alot
        truth is he has more fans "groupies" here in the U.S. than in Mexico! he packed arenas! yes till he ducked GGG for about 2 years! tell the truth no other fight would give canelo the numbers had he fought any other 160 pounder! canelo might have all the $ but he is not the people's champ like chavez, barrera, morales & at some point ODLH. even maromero paez had more carisma than Clenelo.... ese wey es fresa y correlon.

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        • Calibaloc
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          #74
          Originally posted by MickG
          Agree with your comment 100%. Just shows how money is now his top priority as opposed to nationalistic pride or boxing heart, both of which he displayed in bucket fulls as a fighter
          Exactly. De la hoya was old school when it came to fighting. He always wanted to fight the best and thats why he has some losses on his record. Say what you want about him as a promoter and a cross dresser but he was a REAL fighter.

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          • Calibaloc
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            #75
            Originally posted by markther
            AGAIN, you keep changing the narrative which is probably what you do EVERYTIME you post here. No one is mentioning anything about financials after boxing. I mean Floyd has way more money than Oscar, a ton of investments, quite a few businesses, and his own promotion company. No one has made more money in the sport than Floyd and he has a much better resume than Oscar with titles also in multiple divisions, being undefeated with more quality wins against fighters in their PRIME and qualify wins AFTER HIS PRIME and when he was older than Oscar. When Floyd was 35 and above he was beating contenders and good fighters. When Oscar was 35 and up, he was getting blasted out the ring by Manny and has a win against Steve Forbes. But we aren’t talking about Floyd OR financials or money.

            I’m talking about what Oscar said. He said he faced great fighters. TRUE, I 100% agree. Oscar fought a lot of great fighters. But he also said he had great wins against great fighters. I said, I only see (2) great WINS against P4P and future HOF’ers IN THEIR PRIME.

            That’s not being a Oscar hater at all or trying to discredit the man. He did win an Olympic Gold Medal, I will give him credit for that. But I looked at his PROFESSIONAL RESUME and it doesn’t look impressive based on wins and losses. If you had any common sense and objectivity, YOU would admit it isn’t that much better than Fernando Vargas. That’s all I said.

            And it’s not the difficult to get into the International Boxing Hall of Fame, it’s as easy as getting into the NBA Hall of Fame. I don’t believe Winky Wright deserved a HOF nod recently. Those are the (2) easiest SPORT HOF’s to qualify for, not sure you knew that.

            And I never said Oscar won’t make it to the HOF, I said he isn’t a HOF’er in my book taking a objective and real close look at his “professsional resume.”

            And PLEASE, PLEASE, don’t embarrass yourself on a boxing forum with knowledgeable fans mentioning Oscar in the same breath as Sugar Ray Robinson. Are you on drugs, have you been drinking?????

            Sugar Ray Robinson had 199 fights. How many losses would Oscar have IF he fought almost 200 fighters. And out of his 19 losses; he avenged (4) of those losses and (3) of those avenged wins came against HOF’ers Basilio, Fullmer, and LaMotta. And Robinson beat (7) HOF’ers, Henry Armstrong, Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basilio, Jake LaMotta, Rocky Graziano, Gene Fullmer and Fritzie Zivic.

            “Technically” Oscar beat (4) HOF’ers, Camacho, Chavez, Whitaker, & Gatti. But he beat Chavez, Camacho on the tail end of theirs careers after they all had so many fights. Gatti was over rated, prime example that it’s easy to get into the HOF. Oscar only beat (1) when they were in their prime, Whitaker, a lot of people had that fight a draw or a win for Whitaker.

            Someone needs to revoke your boxing card. You don’t know sh@t about boxing. STOP IT!
            Im not gonna read all of that. You wasted your time. You are making yourself look like an idiot by trying to discredit De la hoya as a boxer. Whatever personal issues you have with him are making you sound dumb. You a posting about a boxing HOF'er millionaire who doesnt even know you exist! take your medication son. You should quit while you're behind...
            Last edited by Calibaloc; 08-16-2018, 06:19 PM.

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            • Calibaloc
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              #76
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              Oscar despite being bigger than his opponents when he was fighting at the lower weights was a very good fighter. He had excellent hand speed and a left hook from hell. He came to fight and had a career that 99.9% of other boxers could only dream about. Don't approve of his extracurricular activities and his management style but he was an outstanding fighter.
              THANK YOU!!! these are FACTS. Ever since he stopped boxing his lifestyle became questionable to say the least but to try to discredit him as a fighter is asinine.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #77
                Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                the irony of how some fans criticized mayweather style constantly, called him boring, but now when one of their own has been accused of not fighting in a pleasing style, their tune changes. But what I was referring to with ggg is his desire to seek out kos and action. When I said Canelo had given fans reasons not to like him, I wasn't talking about his fighting style, I was referring to his diva behaviors, dropping belts and arguing with the organization over a mandatory defense, complaining over a draw in a fight most had him losing, certain opponent selections and positive ped tests.


                good god

                the hypejob INTENTIONALLY selects no-hopers

                wants a big drama show, but doesn't want any actual drama lol

                I bet you really enjoyed the Vanes fight

                you said earlier that certain things put you off certain fighters....

                well, Golovkin's lies/cherry-picking/and continual bum-a-thon, is what did it for me

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                  Yet Mexican fans cheered ggg after his fight with Canelo and bood canelo. Why do you think that is? And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that most of Canelos fans who support him blindly on here only do so because they share his ethnicity.

                  I am not Mexican, and I support Canelo

                  Canelo > Jabkin hands down..... not even close


                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                  You think these same fans would support ggg, cotto, ward, mayweather or any other boxer if any of them had tested positive for peds? Or if they dropped a title instead of facing a mandatory that they knew about for over a year?

                  they did not " drop a title "..... they vacated because Jabkin refused to be a man of his word..... and btw, Canelo continued discussions with Jabkin, but that discussion died because Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refused to negotiate on weight

                  he lied to you son, grown men usually object to being lied to

                  and oh, seeing that we are on the subject of being stripped.....

                  how are Golovkin's preparations going for Derevyanchenko?

                  saying this..... " You think these same fans would support ggg..... if they dropped a title instead of facing a mandatory "..... was dumb

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Catrin
                    truth is he has more fans "groupies" here in the U.S. than in Mexico! he packed arenas! yes till he ducked GGG for about 2 years! tell the truth no other fight would give canelo the numbers had he fought any other 160 pounder! canelo might have all the $ but he is not the people's champ like chavez, barrera, morales & at some point ODLH. even maromero paez had more carisma than Clenelo.... ese wey es fresa y correlon.


                    a few months after Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refused to negotiate on weight with THE SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo..... he stated that he was willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody would step up.....





                    ..... you can't make that shht up

                    btw, Canelo fought a supposed killer in his first true fight at middleweight..... Hypekin has never done anything like that, he literally had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Jacobs fight, and then he got stripped for ducking Derevyanchenko

                    I will go easy and not mention Ward

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                      #80
                      They gonna be loyal when GGG leaves the cheating chica curled up in the corner looking like the fraud she is? I don't think so, I think GGG is about to become Mexico's new hero!!!!

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