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  • allen23
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    #101
    Originally posted by kafkod
    That never happened!

    Hearn and AJ never made any guarantee to Ortiz ... but he would have been fighting AJ next if he hadn't jumped ship to Haymon then lost his WBA mando spot by failing a PED test and getting KO'd by Wilder.
    keep telling yourself that..he was 'guaranteed it' after the klitschko fight but hearn decided against it of course..

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    • Noelanthony
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      #102
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      I can't give sole credit to Joshua/Hearn. It certainly helps that they've continuously dropped his name in interviews and it definitely helped that they decided to "make an offer". However, Team Wilder smartly countered those offers and waged a decent media campaign in the states.
      A well executed Media campaign that has turned our golden boy Joshua into the Tin man of wizard of Oz

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      • kafkod
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        #103
        Originally posted by allen23
        keep telling yourself that..he was 'guaranteed it' after the klitschko fight but hearn decided against it of course..
        You're just talking crap now.

        Here's the facts: AJ was IBF champ and he had a mando due, against Pulev. He was given permission to delay it till after his fight with Wlad, which was for the IBF and vacant WBA titles.

        AJ won the WBA title and inherited another mando, who was Ortiz.

        AJ and had Wlad had a rematch clause in their contract, which the IBF gave permission for - provided AJ and Wlad both gave them a guarantee that the winner would fight Pulev next.

        When Wlad retired instead of fighting the rematch, the WBA ordered AJ to fight Ortiz, which conflicted with the guarantee he had already given to the IBF that their mando would be next.

        The IBF and WBA had a meeting to discuss the conflict, and both agreed that AJ should fight Pulev before Ortiz, because he had been mando for longer.

        Pulev pulled out injured after the fight was signed, and Takam took his place. Then Ortiz decided to fight Wilder instead of waiting for his shot at AJ and lost his WBA mando spot after he failed a PED test, then got KO'd by Wilder after being cleared to fight.
        Last edited by kafkod; 08-07-2018, 11:51 AM.

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        • uppercut510
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          #104
          basically hearn wants wilders next fight to be with one of his fighters so that it can be on DANZ and it can blow up in the US... this guy is childish as hell. move on and focus on AJ and your stable. Wilder will do whats best for his career, you failed to offer him a decent percentage and played him as if he was some low level bum, hes now turned down your offers. if hes this insignificant Alabama bum then leave him and us alone. aj sells 90k stadiums out in 5 mins im sure you have a lot to focus on outside of this bum wilder who nobody knows about

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          • kafkod
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            #105
            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            A well executed Media campaign that has turned our golden boy Joshua into the Tin man of wizard of Oz
            Only with that section of the US fan base who automatically side with their own countrymen over "outsiders" whatever the issue.

            I haven't heard any UK fans and journalists talking about AJ ducking Wilder. The general consensus seems to be that they should both stop fannying around and get it on .. preferably over here.

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            • Larry the boss
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              #106
              Hearn is literally "BUILDING A WALL" around Joshua...Now he has 2 people Wilder has to fight before he gets Joshua

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                #107
                How does he know what Wilder-Fury is gonna draw for both fighters compared to Shyte or Chisora?

                Sounds like he's the one that's losing his ****en mind

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  basically hearn wants wilders next fight to be with one of his fighters so that it can be on DANZ and it can blow up in the US... this guy is childish as hell. move on and focus on AJ and your stable. Wilder will do whats best for his career, you failed to offer him a decent percentage and played him as if he was some low level bum, hes now turned down your offers. if hes this insignificant Alabama bum then leave him and us alone. aj sells 90k stadiums out in 5 mins im sure you have a lot to focus on outside of this bum wilder who nobody knows about
                  yep....lol......

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Only with that section of the US fan base who automatically side with their own countrymen over "outsiders" whatever the issue.

                    I haven't heard any UK fans and journalists talking about AJ ducking Wilder. The general consensus seems to be that they should both stop fannying around and get it on .. preferably over here.
                    True true...

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by SeGoodland
                      Not sure where you formulated this opinion from! If you watch the iFL video where he says this, Hearn actually says that Matchroom want that fight to happen and good luck to both of them. Matchroom know what they are doing but Wilder doesn't.

                      Combined with the info from the WBC that there has been no communication with them regarding officially getting the fight made...

                      Hearn looks content to be sat on the fence letting Wilder and Fury make themselves less appealing.

                      I want both Wilder/AJ and Wilder/Fury to happen as much as Fury/AJ so it makes no difference to me what Hearn says. It just makes me wonder what he has to lie about in that video...

                      Link ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1JmEnZCWO8
                      What does that have to do with my assessment of Hearn?
                      He is an arrogant fool who wants to believe he can
                      control or manipulate fighters who are not even signed to
                      Matchroom. Wilder did not lose 'the plot'. Hearn lost his co-star.
                      Now Hearn can only pair Joshua with his little
                      character actors like Chisora & Whyte.

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