Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Has Lost The Plot, Doesn't Know What He's Doing!

[SeGoodland]

1. FACT: Wilder offered to provide security & you didn't respond at all.

2. FACT: term sheet was sent & you saw it.

3. Deontay has something more important than a contract: LOYALTY. You familiar with the concept? Didn't think so. https://t.co/4i5H22dXki

— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) June 28, 2018

Hate to interrupt with actual facts, but: 1. Wilder did offer mutually acceptable security, which could include a guarantee. 2. Wilder did send a detailed term sheet & you acknowledged receipt.

Both were in writing & easily verifiable. You didn't respond substantively to either. https://t.co/juMWJrHpPc

— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) June 27, 2018

If you honestly believe that some no-name idiot from BoxingScene (you) is entitled to seeing the $50 million rather than the parties involved, you need to quit life. Anyway, Stephen Espinoza has no reason to lean towards Wilder or Joshua. He's been promoting both and simply wants the fight on his network.

That's not really distinct proof is it?

Well there is so much talk about "$50m this and so-and-so ducked", blah blah blah. I wanted to see PROOF which is something you clearly cannot give so thanks for trying.

Well done for being a somebody on BoxingScene by just being a massive C.U.N.T.

[Bronx2245]

I get what you are saying, I do. The problem is, in the UK, Matchroom are aligned with Sky, that, in my opinion, is the biggest PPV.

Frank Warren is aligned with BT Sport that cannot really compete and is the second best PPV.

Also, in my opinion, Matchroom has a better stable that Warren and can produce the bigger audiences so if it was to be in the UK, you can't really look past an event being put on by Hearn and Matchroom because the ties and infrastructure to make big nights happen.

Can Frank Warren get Wilder/Fury, BJ Saunders, Selby and Frampton to fight on the same night? I'm not 100% but it seems unlikely.

After the Whyte/Parker event, its put Matchroom, Chisora and Whyte on the tongues of British boxing fans so obviously that's the events that people will want to go to. Just that alone, in my opinion, makes AJ the A side. I can't see Fury being the A-side regardless of a WBC title/lineal. AJ fans probably account for the majority of boxing fans in the UK, including casuals, to them; he is the man to beat regardless of the lineal because Fury isn't really relevant until he beats a decent opponent. 1 good win doesn't make you the A side, in my opinion, you need the fans, the infrastructure and the belts. AJ has all three, duck or no duck.

I'm sure some fans will think otherwise.

I don't really know how things go down in the UK, so i'll take your word for it. However becoming the lineal champion, and beating Wilder twice, should automatically make Fury vs. Joshua a 50/50 split at the minimum!

[Accolade]

That's not really distinct proof is it?

SeGoodland from BoxingScene,

You aren't entitled to distinct proof in a private affair. You asked for a neutral source, and I provided. The reputation of Espinoza alone suffices as proof for reasonable people, and you clearly aren't part of that company.

Well there is so much talk about "$50m this and so-and-so ducked", blah blah blah. I wanted to see PROOF which is something you clearly cannot give so thanks for trying.

You aren't entitled to proof. You're a no-name moron from BoxingScene. Besides, Eddie Hearn isn't even asking for proof of funds, so why is this a point of contention for you specifically? What is your role in the negotiation? To which party are you aligned?

Well done for being a somebody on BoxingScene by just being a massive C.U.N.T.

Do you call me that because I make you feel ******? It's okay.

[kafkod]

why would it be a duck? a duck is where joshua/hearn guaranteed ortiz a fight and then renaged on the deal

That never happened!

Hearn and AJ never made any guarantee to Ortiz ... but he would have been fighting AJ next if he hadn't jumped ship to Haymon then lost his WBA mando spot by failing a PED test and getting KO'd by Wilder.

[Patsfan bri]

Has there been any distinct proof, from a neutral, so actually show that the $50m ever existed? I would be really interested to see that if there is proof.

With all this back and forth, I would really just like to see real proof rather than a PR/Social Media War.

none of us will probably ever know the truth, it hearn was shown proof of funds which is why he then asked for the money upfront, then finally he said the fight must happen in the UK.But Hearn did admit on this board the money was real.

[Sammyjeff]

LOL Eddie Hearn looking desperate and outmaneuvered.. it's plain to see that Wilder doesn't want to be Eddie Hearn's Tool. He needs Wilder to fight on his DAZN app to get the United States to subscribe. Slow Eddies scrambling around while Wilder and Fury gona make huge numbers in Vegas. After Wilder becomes the lineal champ of the world the AJ camp wont be lowballin it will be bigger and Wilder will get his percentage

Desperate ?? That would be wilder who makes 10x less then Joshua and now worried he will miss out on the Joshua sweepstake. Only blind ****riders would think wilder is the A side. Joshua holds 4 belts and is internationally known. Wilder isnt even a American household name. Only hardcore fans know him. He will rue the day he turned down 15mil. Dumb dumb

[Sammyjeff]

Stephen Espinosa is your "neutral party." Lol

[Accolade]

Stephen Espinosa is your "neutral party." Lol

The president of Showtime Sports, a network that both fighters have been promoted on and fought on. Who are you again?

[Sammyjeff]

Wilder is so dumb its maddening. He will have to fight 5 times to make what he would've made vs AJ. Straight idiot

[Sammyjeff]

Again do you know who Espinosa is and his history. Obviously not