Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Has Lost The Plot, Doesn't Know What He's Doing!

[SeGoodland]

Hearn must have been coddled, spoiled, and sheltered from society during his childhood & formative years.
He act's like he has just arrived on Earth from another planet, and he has no clue how to behave like a human.

Not sure where you formulated this opinion from! If you watch the iFL video where he says this, Hearn actually says that Matchroom want that fight to happen and good luck to both of them. Matchroom know what they are doing but Wilder doesn't.

Combined with the info from the WBC that there has been no communication with them regarding officially getting the fight made...

Hearn looks content to be sat on the fence letting Wilder and Fury make themselves less appealing.

I want both Wilder/AJ and Wilder/Fury to happen as much as Fury/AJ so it makes no difference to me what Hearn says. It just makes me wonder what he has to lie about in that video...

Link ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1JmEnZCWO8

[Ake-Dawg]

I agree butwhat did Gerald Washington do for Deontay? It’s just a fight where he can pole axe Chisora inside 3 rounds and earn 5 million doing it but I agree fighting him proves absolutely nothing

On DAZN though. Wilder would have to break his relationship with Showtime. Further, don't you think that $5M offer comes with other strings. I recall him alluding to the fact that it would require signing the Joshua deal as well. He said something to the effect of, its a $20M deal, $5M for the opponent of his choosing and $15M for Joshua.

[SeGoodland]

when the offer of 50 million was made Hearn said it was a stunt and wanted proof of funds, team wilder showed them proof of funds, then they wanted the money upfront and wilders team agreed to that , then Hearn was asking what channel the fight would be on and finally at the end of the day AJ decided he wanted the fight in the UK. That’s why no contract was sent cause they didn’t agree with the offer. Hearn mislead everyone you and I included to think the fight was going to happen.

Has there been any distinct proof, from a neutral, so actually show that the $50m ever existed? I would be really interested to see that if there is proof.

With all this back and forth, I would really just like to see real proof rather than a PR/Social Media War.

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I still don’t see how anyone takes this clown seriously.

[Bronx2245]

I beg to differ. If Wilder wins against Fury the fight will be bigger. Especially amongst U.K. fans.Granted Wilder offer will inevitably go up but so will the money and interest of the spectacle. If Tyson Fury wins then we have the biggest fight to ever take place in England. I think this A side marlarkey fans get confused with what it actually means. Tyson after beating Wilder May well be considered by all fans even Joshua fans if you like as the true king of the Division. Still doesn’t mean he will be A side.

Spence went to the U.K. and finished Kell Brook and became champion. Tell me another welterweight at the time that could guzump Errol achievements. Practically everyone saw him as the king of the division . Still doesn’t mean that Garcia and Thurman will not ultimately be the A side if they faced him. Why you ask yourself?... the same reason Joshua will be A side vs Wilder or Fury . You are a smart guy you understand deep down but I know how you feel because I felt the same way towards Thurman and Garcia

If Thurman and Garcia had stayed active, they would easily be the A-side, just like Thurman! But none of the 3 stayed active! Meanwhile Spence beat Brook, fights 3 times this year, and last one being Mikey Garcia, so if Spence Jr. beats Garcia, he's the A-SIDE VS. anybody!

Fury has a chance to be the A-side, because of his antics and if he wins, he will have beaten the real Klitschko, and Wilder, the man AJ swerved! If i'm Fury, after I beat Wilder, I rematch Wilder and make the fight in the UK! That will really make him the A-side, because Joshua can't top Fury vs. Wilder in the UK! There's no opponent available with that kind of stature, not even Usyk!

[Accolade]

Has there been any distinct proof, from a neutral, so actually show that the $50m ever existed? I would be really interested to see that if there is proof.

With all this back and forth, I would really just like to see real proof rather than a PR/Social Media War.

1. FACT: Wilder offered to provide security & you didn't respond at all.

2. FACT: term sheet was sent & you saw it.

3. Deontay has something more important than a contract: LOYALTY. You familiar with the concept? Didn't think so. https://t.co/4i5H22dXki

— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) June 28, 2018

Hate to interrupt with actual facts, but: 1. Wilder did offer mutually acceptable security, which could include a guarantee. 2. Wilder did send a detailed term sheet & you acknowledged receipt.

Both were in writing & easily verifiable. You didn't respond substantively to either. https://t.co/juMWJrHpPc

— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) June 27, 2018

If you honestly believe that some no-name idiot from BoxingScene (you) is entitled to seeing the $50 million rather than the parties involved, you need to quit life. Anyway, Stephen Espinoza has no reason to lean towards Wilder or Joshua. He's been promoting both and simply wants the fight on his network.

[Accolade]

On the proof of funds argument:

Here's a timestamped video of Eddie Hearn himself saying he isn't asking for proof of funds. Now shut the fuck up.

And look at how Eddie stumbles over his words as soon as he realizes he contradicted himself. Comedy.

[Noelanthony]

On DAZN though. Wilder would have to break his relationship with Showtime. Further, don't you think that $5M offer comes with other strings. I recall him alluding to the fact that it would require signing the Joshua deal as well. He said something to the effect of, its a $20M deal, $5M for the opponent of his choosing and $15M for Joshua.

I don’t think so but you are right I do recall him saying something about 20m and Wilder fighting who he wants for 5m.If that is the case then you are right it makes absolutely no sense. As for showtime I’m fully aware how loyal they have been to Deontay and I’m more than sure Wilder will reciprocate the loyalty straight back. I’m not saying Wilder should fight on Dazn but surely with these offers that Hearn is making publicly ,Winkel can’t be laughing then even contemplate negotiating a deal for Wilder where he gets under 4 million.. Whether you care to admit or not Wilders worth has risen and it thanks to the darstardly duo , Joshua and Hearn

[SeGoodland]

If Thurman and Garcia had stayed active, they would easily be the A-side, just like Thurman! But none of the 3 stayed active! Meanwhile Spence beat Brook, fights 3 times this year, and last one being Mikey Garcia, so if Spence Jr. beats Garcia, he's the A-SIDE VS. anybody!

Fury has a chance to be the A-side, because of his antics and if he wins, he will have beaten the real Klitschko, and Wilder, the man AJ swerved! If i'm Fury, after I beat Wilder, I rematch Wilder and make the fight in the UK! That will really make him the A-side, because Joshua can't top Fury vs. Wilder in the UK! There's no opponent available with that kind of stature, not even Usyk!

I get what you are saying, I do. The problem is, in the UK, Matchroom are aligned with Sky, that, in my opinion, is the biggest PPV.

Frank Warren is aligned with BT Sport that cannot really compete and is the second best PPV.

Also, in my opinion, Matchroom has a better stable that Warren and can produce the bigger audiences so if it was to be in the UK, you can't really look past an event being put on by Hearn and Matchroom because the ties and infrastructure to make big nights happen.

Can Frank Warren get Wilder/Fury, BJ Saunders, Selby and Frampton to fight on the same night? I'm not 100% but it seems unlikely.

After the Whyte/Parker event, its put Matchroom, Chisora and Whyte on the tongues of British boxing fans so obviously that's the events that people will want to go to. Just that alone, in my opinion, makes AJ the A side. I can't see Fury being the A-side regardless of a WBC title/lineal. AJ fans probably account for the majority of boxing fans in the UK, including casuals, to them; he is the man to beat regardless of the lineal because Fury isn't really relevant until he beats a decent opponent. 1 good win doesn't make you the A side, in my opinion, you need the fans, the infrastructure and the belts. AJ has all three, duck or no duck.

I'm sure some fans will think otherwise.

[BoZz]

For Hearn and Joshua it's a mistery when someone wants to fight the best, that's why they don't understand what Wilder is doing. All Wilder is doing is trying to fight the best out there or the one's who think they're the best like that coward Joshua. It takes an Irish man to defend the Brits because they're cowards. So well done Mr Fury..the Poms should bow down to you..those cowards are only there to worship the queen and drink tea.