Comments Thread For: Garcia-Easter Showtime's Tripleheader Peaked at 725K Viewers

[Scipio2009]

So why do people on here say HBO is dead? We should be positive for all networks supporting our sport.

Because HBO gives two ****s about boxing. Rather than put up the money for a boxing schedule, HBO has zeroed that line item and instead put that money behind developing a show, with boxing almost entirely financed by what Saul Alvarez can generate for HBO on PPV.

Between the Chavez Jr and Golovkin fights (plus Ward-Kovalev 2 and Golovkin-Jacobs), HBO generated over 2.5m buys in 2017, likely clearing $10m-$15m, with something near that being the entire boxing budget for 2018 (Alvarez-Golovkin 2 will help the end of the year, but likely not as much as folks are banking on).

The general knowledge about money is what it is, but that budget gets you 4-5 cards like Saturday (Garcia-Easter, Luis Ortiz in a return fight, step up for top prospect Mario Barrios), or a season of regular ShoBox.

[j.razor]

He needs Loma but Loma just had attendance of 10.4k in NYC against Linares with only 1.4 million views on ESPN?

I think Mikey is doing just fine lol His numbers are very strong relatively speaking.

I WONDER if bob is going to make lomo's next fight on the espn plus app? Or not so everyone can watch & get his ratings up.

[chrisJS]

All you do is hate on Mexican fighters. Fade it, Loma**** doesn’t bring shyt to the table. Dude got his ass beat by Salido. Mikey was on Showtime, Loma**** was ok free tv. Nobody knows who he is, yet Mikey’s stock is blowing up every time he fights. Keep hating, but keep your b.s to yourself

LOL. My favorite fighter of all-time is Mexican and I count Estrada among my 3-4 current favorite fighters. Just because I point out that Mikey hasn't beaten an elite fighter isn't "hate", on the flip side it's being a fanboy if you think he has.

You however always hate on European fighters and I remember when you made posts making fun of Puerto Rico having a hurricane and the people that died there which was disgusting and the behavior of a low level POS human being. To think that's just because you are purely a casual boxing fan who's a race rooter makes it even more sad (as if it gets worse than celebrating disasters and people dying). Karma is a hell of a thing hopefully it hits you hard.

More people know Loma and GGG (who ironically you are so obsessed with and make fun of his numbers yet they are better than Mikey's) than Mikey but who cares. Anyway, I thought I blocked you when you made fun of dead people but I'll block you now. I HATE people like you.

[j.razor]

I thought it was a great card. I dont understand how HBO can get bigger numbers for a so so fight without including the app.

Cuz hbo has more subscribers.

[GhostofDempsey]

I thought this would do better, but fight viewership really depends on the quality of the opponent. Easter never was and never will be a ratings booster. Mikey needs a name of equal or higher recognition for his next fight. I really think he should reconsider his intentions to pursue Spence (if he is really serious) and focus on the likes of Pacquiao, Loma, or maybe some of the lower tier WW names such as Alexander or Berto. If he really wants a title at 147 he might want to focus on winner of the WBC bout, which I suspect will be Danny Garcia. Two Garcias, one Mexican and one Puerto Rican, good scrap.

[j.razor]

So why do people on here say HBO is dead? We should be positive for all networks supporting our sport.

Cuz they don't have the best fighters with them, only a handful. Showtime has most of the talent.

Plus hbo is a bias network with harold, jim & larry….well they got rid of larry probably cuz Floyd played larry out in a post fight interview for the years of disrespect & Floyd left the network. They need to get rid of jim & harold already.

[man down]

Cuz they don't have the best fighters with them, only a handful. Showtime has most of the talent.

Plus hbo is a bias network with harold, jim & larry….well they got rid of larry probably cuz Floyd played larry out in a post fight interview for the years of disrespect & Floyd left the network. They need to get rid of jim & harold already.

But they have better ratings? With less talent?

[j.razor]

lol terrible numbers. mikey is NOT a star! showtime is in the gutter ratings wise.

Keep on hating & losing dude....lol

[RL_GMA]

The crutch Showtime is always going to have is having MUCH less subscribers than HBO. Hell, at one point Starz had more subs than Showtime as recent as 2-3 years ago. I commend Espinoza and Showtime putting on the best fights possible (under their umbrella) but how do people expect for guys like Spence, Mikey, Charlos, etc to gain any MAJOR notoriety fighting on a Network that quite honestly NEVER had the bulk of subscribers? HBO just finished televising Jaime Mungia (a virtual unknown) against Liam Smith (another some what virutal unknown) and for *****s and giggles that did over 800K and I can almost guarantee a bulk of that audience were channel surfing.

When you really look at all the Networks televising Boxing, while Showtime is producing the better fights they're in front of the least amount of people watching. At some point I have to assume the well is gonna some what dry up and these guys (who don't have Showtime contracts) are going to start to question their loyalty when fights present themselves from other Networks, Promoters for better money / bigger audiences attached. For instance, does anyone think Jermall would be loyal to Showtime (without having a contract) if he was given an offer to fight GGG / Canelo on HBO for his biggest payday and a shot at the Middleweight titles? As it stands the 160 division under the Showtime / PBC umbrella is a Ghost town.

[Boxingfanatic75]

It's dead for the simple fact they hardly invest in boxing anymore. Look at their schedule this year and how few and far between the cards have been. SHO has been killing it, while HBO will occasionally give you a card here and there. HBO just may think investing in boxing is a waste of time and it makes more sense to throw money at hit shows like Game of Thrones or what not.

Very true! I have both HBO and Showtime as standalone and HBO has next to no boxing. Not only that the HBO app you can’t watch live making it utter garbage. Showtime on the other hand has TONS of bouts, they also have shobox and I can watch it live. With HBO I have to wait almost a week to watch a match. After GOT HBO is getting cancelled.