Comments Thread For: Garcia-Easter Showtime's Tripleheader Peaked at 725K Viewers

[j.razor]

The tickets at Lomachenko-Linares were more costly (I went to Loma-Linares and live in LA) and LA is basically Mikey's backyard and 1.4m on ESPN is solid for a guy not named Pacquaio. Mikey in general does consistently less at the gate and on TV than Lomachenko.

I do believe neither guy is the meal ticket yet or big enough to the point where either NEEDS the other. Both are still building their names and fan bases. I think Mikey needs the fight more from a sporting perspective though. He can't beat Spence (nor is he serious) that's mismatch but Lomachenko is generally seen as pound for pound #1 and has a more impressive resume whereas Mikey really doesn't have any wins over elite fighters.

You say l0m0/linares cost more in his own backyard cuz you trying to shet on Mickey, You say l0m0 is more consistent? For 2 fights? LOL....wow real consistent. You again trying to shet on Mickey. You say they at a point where neither NEEDS the other sounds like a back pedal cuz maybe YOU don't want the fight to happen. They SHOULD be fighting NEXT (after a tune up from the shoulder). So you say l0m0 has a "more impressive resume" but Mickey beat Salido & l0m0 lost to Salido & Mickey is undefeated? Again trying to shet on Mickey to make l0m0 look good....SMH

These are fights I want to see at 135. Devin Haney, Mickey Garcia, Gervonta Davis, Tevin Farmer & l0m0. ALL mix & match win lose or draw I want to see those fights. Will bob do these fights? NO & you KNOW it while at the same time you saying l0m0 is the greatest ever....LMAO....l0m0 is going to end up being used by bob & a sucker like Manny.

[j.razor]

But they have better ratings? With less talent?

Switch the subscribers & what do you have?

[Bronx23]

Why is it fans tend to gloat and be happy when a card doesn't draw large viewings?

You don't want to see the sport succeed? The more fights fail the less the budget becomes, the less the fighters fight, the less good fights happen etc;

happens on both sides man. I see guys all the time on here celebrating when HBO cards draw crap numbers, and I see guys doing the same with Showtime. A true fan wants boxing to thrive on as many networks as possible. Bad ratings is bad for the sport.

you dont see football, basketball baseball, etc fans cheerlaeading for and hating on network numbers

[RL_GMA]

It's dead for the simple fact they hardly invest in boxing anymore. Look at their schedule this year and how few and far between the cards have been. SHO has been killing it, while HBO will occasionally give you a card here and there. HBO just may think investing in boxing is a waste of time and it makes more sense to throw money at hit shows like Game of Thrones or what not.

Showtime has just always been the lower tier Network when it concerns subscriptions / ratings / Popular shows. At the end of the day what Premium Cable comes down to is ratings. Think about this, Jaime Mungia vs Liam Smith did over 800K views on HBO, 2 virtual unknowns with literally 0 promotion. Mikey vs Easter Jr was a Lightweight Unification fight with decent promotion and barely got to 725K views. Had that fight been on HBO even now it would've done over 1 Mill views just off how much more subs HBO has and people who will catch a Saturday Night fight. Showtime's always put on good fights over the years but they're also always played 2nd fiddle to HBO (and even ESPN now) as it concerns views per event. I don't see that changing much either.

[Bronx23]

No, that's a good number. Basically what Spence did in his last two fights. They are equal level stars at the moment. Below Wilder/Broner, but next up from the PBC/SHO stable. Granted, Thurman hasn't fought on SHO in a while so who knows what kind of numbers he will be doing.

This would be the equivalent of peaking around 950k if the fight was on HBO.

too many mathmatical variables that would have to be accounted for to make that comparison. you basicallyjust pulled that 950k out the sky

[ThelronMike]

It's dead for the simple fact they hardly invest in boxing anymore. Look at their schedule this year and how few and far between the cards have been. SHO has been killing it, while HBO will occasionally give you a card here and there. HBO just may think investing in boxing is a waste of time and it makes more sense to throw money at hit shows like Game of Thrones or what not.

HBO increased their standards. They split from Top Rank because they told Bob that they wanted better matchups he said "Oy Vey! Hell no!" and took the mismatches to ESPN. Look at the two Ramirez's for a good example. Jerwin Ancajas too, which sucks because all these fighters are wasting their youth.

[chrisJS]

happens on both sides man. I see guys all the time on here celebrating when HBO cards draw crap numbers, and I see guys doing the same with Showtime. A true fan wants boxing to thrive on as many networks as possible. Bad ratings is bad for the sport.

you dont see football, basketball baseball, etc fans cheerlaeading for and hating on network numbers

Yeah, it seems every thread reporting numbers there's always some lowlife in there bragging that the card tanked.

I think a lot of boxing fans seem to want boxing to just go away because they can only enjoy a handful of fighters.

I personally watch every card I can and want every card to succeed so that we get more cards, better fights and boxers get recognition from the average sports fan not just the hardcore.

[Bronx23]

HBO has more subscribers than Showtime. Keep in mind that the only way to watch fights on HBO is to actually tune to their channel via your cable company. You can't watch their fights via a live stream on their app. You could stream a live HBO fight via the Direct TV app, however those views get counted because you are watching via DirectTV. I've been watching Showtime boxing through their app for the past 2 years.

false i have no cable company and i watch fights on all the networks. its called internet streams. Havent had cable since summer of 2014.

[sicko]

Showtime APP is their focus, why are people still focused on their Network Nielsen Ratings

I actually like that APP's take focus OFF of Ratings Numbers ESPN+ don't release any numbers and that is a great. That being said, boxing as a whole is not in the best space in the US right now. The Audience for boxing is not growing in fact the numbers are Declining for ALL Boxing Platforms

[Bronx2245]

SALUTE to Mikey Garcia! Keep it up!