honest question for AJ fans

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Haha, Even though Wilder has been crying about him not getting one?

The one sided nature of the rematch clause is one of the things Wilder thought was unfair about Hearn's offer, but Wilder accepted the offer anyway. Wilder thought the flat fee was unfair, but he accepted anyway. He caved on every deal point as long as the fight was NEXT. When Hearn didn't keep his word about the fight being next, that's when the fight fell apart and Wilder was no longer willing to take a ****ty deal.

I thought Hearn was a liar who shouldn't be trusted? Now you want to take what he says when it suits your argument?

Hearn is a liar who shouldn't be trusted. But when Finkel insists that Wilder agreed to no rematch, and Hearn publicly admits Finkel is telling the truth, why should we believe YOU that Wilder wasn't willing to fight without a rematch?

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Fighters get a cut of international rights and ticket sales, it's included in the money they get.

You do like to dodge question don't you? How much did Cotto get in his last fight considering you think you know?

Cotto was likely paid at least a few million, even though his bogus public purse was 700k to save on taxes and sanctioning fees.

Wilder is likely paid 4-5 million per fight, even though his bogus public purse was listed at 2 million to save on taxes and sanctioning fees.

[EnglishOxide]

the WBC guy who pretends hes 3 different people VS Sidknee is like:

Ha.

Fair play to Sid Knee.

It's a war of attrition.

1 guy giving honest facts vs 3 guys being paid to post spin and propaganda in favour of PBC

[Sid-Knee]

pretty difficult to avoid your gibberish since you turbo post in every thread

No, just a couple of threads. And you've managed be in them both.

[Sid-Knee]

Joshua can do whatever he wants. You are the one that made the false claim that A-sides always want hometown advantage. That's not true. A-sides always want the biggest money. They always come to the US to make the biggest money if they're able to.

Then you made the crazy claim that UK & Mexican fighters had to come to the US because there wasn't a big boxing scene in the UK & Mexico.

You're so obsessed with defending AJ that you consistently take the craziest positions that make absolutely no sense.




There's nothing wrong with it. He's just the first fighter in history to be so afraid of losing that he'd spend 15 million dollars to get a hometown ref.




I'm not American. What's your next excuse? I'm in America because this is where you can make the most money.

Americans go overseas when there's more money to be made overseas. Overseas fighters come to America when there's more money to be made in America. This is how boxing has always worked.

If you were having an honest discussion, you'd admit that your claim was false that A-sides always insist on hometown. That's not true. A-sides that can make huge money in the US come to the US to make the huge money. Canelo, GGG, Lennox Lewis, Prince Naseem, Julio Cesar Chavez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Ricky Hatton, Joe Calzaghe, etc.

If it meant having to travel for the American to make their biggest payday, lets not pretend they would go for that option.

I said there wasn't a big boxing scene in Mexico, not the UK. In Mexico it's all pretty much low level fighters that fight at home. The top guys don't have the option to do so because there really is no money at home. That isn't the case for Brits. There's a big scene with plenty of money.

Joshua isn't doing it to get a home-town ref, he's doing to gain an advantage to give him a bigger chance at winning. That's why athletes do home games and what not.

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The one sided nature of the rematch clause is one of the things Wilder thought was unfair about Hearn's offer, but Wilder accepted the offer anyway. Wilder thought the flat fee was unfair, but he accepted anyway. He caved on every deal point as long as the fight was NEXT. When Hearn didn't keep his word about the fight being next, that's when the fight fell apart and Wilder was no longer willing to take a ****ty deal.




Hearn is a liar who shouldn't be trusted. But when Finkel insists that Wilder agreed to no rematch, and Hearn publicly admits Finkel is telling the truth, why should we believe YOU that Wilder wasn't willing to fight without a rematch?

Wilder has always wanted a rematch clause, so stop pretending that he doesn't. He wanted one then, he wants one now. If he was fine without one he wouldn't be crying about it now. B sides don't get rematch clauses, to think they should is nothing short of preposterous. It hasn't been done before, it shouldn't be done now. But you and Wilder seem to think he should. As I say, you're a couple of jokes.

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Cotto was likely paid at least a few million, even though his bogus public purse was 700k to save on taxes and sanctioning fees.

Wilder is likely paid 4-5 million per fight, even though his bogus public purse was listed at 2 million to save on taxes and sanctioning fees.

If Wilder was paid that amount, he would have told Hearn that the 4 mill he was offered for Whyte was not as much as he is paid now. But he didn't. I'll take that as a sign to how much Deontay really gets paid over someone who gets paid to spread propaganda for Haymon and twists things to suit every time.

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Which is why he agreed to go to the UK for a low ball flat fee.




That is false. He agreed to go to the UK for a low ball flat fee with no rematch if he lost.




Because Hearn lied about the fight being next, Wilder is done being treated like ****. If Hearn wants to keep stalling, it's going to cost him. So Wilder is back to publicly requesting 50/50 (just like Parker did), even though he'd obviously take 60/40. You always start higher and in Wilder's mind, negotiations are starting over from scratch after Hearn refused to keep his word about the fight being next even after Wilder agreed to everything.

Wilder has succeeded in taking the negotiations back to point 0 where it all started with a 50/50 which every reasonable fan know it's not possible.
Going by present situation, the fight not been made by 2019. Will be looking at 2020/2021, but I hope am wrong.

[Kezzer]

Are you still complaining because wilder hasn’t signed the contract yet?

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Wilder has succeeded in taking the negotiations back to point 0 where it all started with a 50/50 which every reasonable fan know it's not possible.

And he knows 50/50 isn't possible. 60/40 is his goal. But there's no way he'll do flat fee now.