Hearn sets the record straight

[Curt Henning]

"and NOW you've been caught red-handed as a liar. "

Now ? Dont you know this goes on daily on here ? lol

The fact WBC WBA IBF admits to having multiple accounts and being paid to be on here calls for a ban ,this nimrod should be permanently booted ! His garbage has run its course far to long ,,, what the F boxingscene ?

hes probably one of the most informative and articulate posters here at the scene...I guess that's why you find him so threatening...lol

[New England]

Shhh your ruining wilder fanboys logic with common sense

here is how it works:

"we are offering you 50 million with an upside, fight is in the US and next."

this comes in an email. if they "agree to these terms" the parties will come together and draw up contracts, which go over items line by line.

these things typically are not hashed out in a sit-down meeting. that's in boxing or otherwise, mind you. people don't just shake hands on these things and move forward. in boxing and elsewhere these things are done with the council of lawyers and the items in the contracts go back and forth in emails.


hearn did not agree to these terms! they wanted the fight in the UK and they did not want it next! hearn himself has said that the fight will make more money over here.

[ukbox]

Shhh your ruining wilder fanboys logic with common sense

Here's some logic for you

They asked do you accept the offer? Hearn hummed & hawed & looked for an angle to get out of it.
The meeting he talks of was short notice & not the reason for his trip to the states. That was Jacobs

If you're dealing with a known snake(hearn has been exposed now) you don't show your hand

Hearn would have been following that money trail trying to gazump both wilder and finkel

One offers 50 mil & its confirmed the offer was legit from Hearns side

The other side offers way below market value

One side wants the fight the other doesn't. Using logic its easy to see which side is which

[New England]

hes probably one of the most informative and articulate posters here at the scene...I guess that's why you find him so threatening...lol

that's precisely correct and hysterical

[OnePunch]

By my own logic, if I don't understand something a very intelligent and successful person does, I don't authoritatively declare that there are no reasons to do what they did. I consider the possibility that they are more experienced and informed than I am and may have considered factors that wouldn't have occurred to me.

Nowhere in any of this have I criticized any of Hearn's moves. I've praised them all. He's played this brilliantly every step of the way. Nothing but respect and admiration for Hearn, the most brilliant promoter in the world right now.

Hearn has the #1 cash cow in boxing. Wilder is the #1 most dangerous knockout puncher in boxing. Why would any competent promoter rush the #1 cash cow into the ring with the #1 most dangerous knockout puncher in boxing?

To suggest that Hearn was eager to make this fight next is to suggest that Hearn is wholly incompetent.

I understand business, and I understand people. Which is why I know full well there is no valid reason not to sit down with someone you are trying to make a $50 million deal with.

And you cannot provide a single reason why, other than "derp derp Shelly is sooooooo smart derp derp". So now you are the Shelly Whisperer or something.

Well let me tell you something. The simplest reason is often the most likely. Shelly didnt take the meeting, because on some level, he didnt want to make that particular deal at this particular time. Because if he did, he would take the meeting. Even if its a complete waste of time, he takes the meeting in furtherance of his clients interests.

But all this is taking up too much time, and I suspect Mauricio needs you to go pick up his laundry or his lunch or something. So be a good errand boy and get back to work........



Edit: And you keep bringing up the fact that I lost money on shows as if its supposed to embarrass me or something. Heres a newsflash. It doesnt. If I had it to do all over again, I would do the same thing. I "lost" money because I wasnt willing to cut the corners necessary to profit on club shows. Why? Because I didnt care whether or not it made money. Boxing is not how I earned my living. No different than 99% of every other club show promoter who uses their own money.

I suspect someone like you probably cant see why that would make sense for someone to spend their own money, because you are too busy worrying about where the next teet is that you can nurse from.

[New England]

Here's some logic for you

They asked do you accept the offer? Hearn hummed & hawed & looked for an angle to get out of it.
The meeting he talks of was short notice & not the reason for his trip to the states. That was Jacobs

If you're dealing with a known snake(hearn has been exposed now) you don't show your hand

Hearn would have been following that money trail trying to gazump both wilder and finkel

One offers 50 mil & its confirmed the offer was legit from Hearns side

The other side offers way below market value

One side wants the fight the other doesn't. Using logic its easy to see which side is which

that these guys don't understand that hearn is a snake really is beyond me. i'm not exonerating al haymon [and LOL at these lumps who think shelly finkel is calling the shots here,] but the idea that hearn is some kind of straight shooter and everybody else is not is just too much for me.


"we flew to the states, they didn't want to meet!."

translation: we flew to the states on unrelated business, i am trying to get into US boxing and not doing particularly great. they didn't want to meet because we didn't agree to the terms they were offering [50 million usd with an upside, fight next, fight in the US.] we wanted to fight in the UK and in 2019.

[New England]

I understand business, and I understand people. Which is why I know full well there is no valid reason not to sit down with someone you are trying to make a $50 million deal with.

And you cannot provide a single reason why, other than "derp derp Shelly is sooooooo smart derp derp". So now you are the Shelly Whisperer or something.

Well let me tell you something. The simplest reason is often the most likely. Shelly didnt take the meeting, because on some level, he didnt want to make that particular deal at this particular time. Because if he did, he would take the meeting. Even if its a complete waste of time, he takes the meeting in furtherance of his clients interests.

But all this is taking up too much time, and I suspect Mauricio needs you to go pick up his laundry or his lunch or something. So be a good errand boy and get back to work........

hearn did not say, "i agree to your terms, let's make this fight."

you understand that, right? the guy didn't agree to the terms! they had already met about eddie's terms! supposedly a contract was sent! flat fee, fight in the UK. they'd already "met" over that!


holy guacamole, guys! what's not to understand?

you wouldn't hash out a contract for a 50 million dollar fight in this meeting! hell, you'd probably just agree to the general terms and go out to dinner! get to know each other, develop some kind of a relationship, you're about to work together and make each other a f#ckload of money and take a ton of risk!

eddie didn't want that meeting! again, he didn't agree to the terms. i keep saying this. he had alredy sent over an offer and it was hugely undervaluing wilder. it was a flat fee designed not to be taken! it was in the ballpark of what joseph parker made! it could have been as little as a 10-15% split! it surely would have been if the fight was in vegas for a 25 million dollar gate and 1 million plus in PPV!

[juggernaut666]

That is a lie. This is my only account.

No its not !

And ......

The actual rules enforced !


4.3. If a Champion participates in a championship contest without the approval or sanction of the Championship Committee, they may lose the Association’s recognition.


If the extended period is up the WBA will enforce their mandatory if the challenger is UNWILLING to fight and Finkels letter supported that as it was going back to Hearn unsigned ALREADY over Povetkins time frame to get his title shot !

[Curt Henning]

hearn did not say, "i agree to your terms, let's make this fight."

you understand that, right? the guy didn't agree to the terms! they had already met about eddie's terms! supposedly a contract was sent! flat fee, fight in the UK. they'd already "met" over that!


holy guacamole, guys! what's not to understand?

you wouldn't hash out a contract for a 50 million dollar fight in this meeting! hell, you'd probably just agree to the general terms and go out to dinner! get to know each other, develop some kind of a relationship, you're about to work together and make each other a f#ckload of money and take a ton of risk!

eddie didn't want that meeting! again, he didn't agree to the terms. i keep saying this. he had alredy sent over an offer and it was hugely undervaluing wilder. it was a flat fee designed not to be taken! it was in the ballpark of what joseph parker made! it could have been as little as a 10-15% split! it surely would have been if the fight was in vegas for a 25 million dollar gate and 1 million plus in PPV!

they understand...they understand fully

whats hard for them to swallow is that this young, good looking boxer, gold medalist is being swerved out of the path of a guy they consider a joke of a fighter....we get it...wilders resume isn't good and hes often unconventional at times...it doesn't always look pretty how he gets the job done.....these guys cant swallow the fact that this boxer/hw champ is being lead away from this "windmilling, bum killing, joke".....it leaves a bad taste in their mouth...probably similar to when their husbands eat a lot of dairy

[juggernaut666]

hes probably one of the most informative and articulate posters here at the scene...I guess that's why you find him so threatening...lol

Well you would think that bc your a ****** as well . lol