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  • joe strong
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    #181
    Originally posted by EnglishOxide
    Wilder publically accepted the $15m purse and does not have a contract with Showtime.

    It doesn't matter where Wilder wants it, Matchroom reserve that right to put it on whichever network makes most financial sense for them.

    If he refuses to fight anywhere other than Showtime then he should never have accepted the offer and requested a contract from Hearn.

    Make no mistake, this whole stink is being kicked off because PBC and Espinoza/Showtime do not like the competition that Matchroom and DAZN are bringing. Matchroom and DAZN will be driving up costs for Showtime and PBC.

    It's a business struggle and they don't really care about Wilders future, they care about keeping their assets.
    I thought he was signed with Showtime but he has also fought on PBC. He has fought on both networks several times.
    Last edited by joe strong; 07-05-2018, 09:55 PM.

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      #182
      "They offered $50million but we ducked because we know we can't win." -Eddie Hearn

      There it is; Straight from the horse's mouth. Real talk right there. 😁😁😁

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        #183
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        complete and utter garbage.

        If you are SERIOUSLY trying to get someone to accept a proposal, be it $50 or $50 million, and they say they are interested, and happen to be in town and would like a sit-down to discuss a few things, YOU TAKE THAT MEETING.

        If you dont, then it makes it pretty clear that you couldnt care less one way or the other about making the deal, and on some level probably hope it doesnt happen.
        Terry, what's the biggest deal you've ever been a part of in boxing? Because I can understand why, from the level of the business you worked at, you would think it's unusual to turn down the meeting.

        But at the higher levels, nobody wastes their time on a meeting when there isn't even a basic ballpark understanding on what the purse numbers are going to look like.

        Arum refused to sit down with Haymon until they agreed on 60/40.

        There's nothing to sit down and discuss until you have some sort of agreement in principle on the purses.

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          #184
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          right, because nothing says "credibility" like an anonymous internet message board account that has changed its identity 3 or 4 times in the past several years.
          Each of us had one previous account ever here. We decided to open a joint account. None of us has had 3 or 4 iden****** ever here, let alone the past several years.

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            #185
            Sometimes I get the feeling that a lot of people don't want to see an undisputed heavyweight title fight between 2 UNDEFEATED fighters in their prime. I don't think this has happened too often in the history of boxing. 2 undefeated HWs in their prime for all the marbles. Another thing I question is the posters here talking like Shelly Finkel is an idiot or a failure. He advised Mike Tyson & the Klitschkos so he must have a little experience at this...
            Last edited by joe strong; 07-05-2018, 10:14 PM.

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              #186
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Each of us had one previous account ever here. We decided to open a joint account. None of us has had 3 or 4 iden****** ever here, let alone the past several years.
              BS

              whoever had the St Laurent account had at least one other alt besides that one

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                #187
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Terry, what's the biggest deal you've ever been a part of in boxing? Because I can understand why, from the level of the business you worked at, you would think it's unusual to turn down the meeting.

                But at the higher levels, nobody wastes their time on a meeting when there isn't even a basic ballpark understanding on what the purse numbers are going to look like.

                Arum refused to sit down with Haymon until they agreed on 60/40.

                There's nothing to sit down and discuss until you have some sort of agreement in principle on the purses.
                you can try and belittle me with smarmy remarks all you want. And you can try and act like certain business protocols never apply in boxing. And you are wrong on both counts.

                REGARDLESS of the business, if you really want a deal to happen, and the other side informs you they are in town and would like to do an informal sit-down, ANY rational businessman will take the meeting. Because WHY NOT? What did Shelly have to lose by sitting down with Hearn? Answer : NOTHING. And by NOT taking the meeting, he has potentially cost his client over $15 million in the short term, and possibly permanently, should AJ or Wilder lose their interim bouts.

                Maybe the meeting gets the fight made, or maybe it would have been a complete waste of time. Who knows? Not me, and certainly not you. But waste of time or not, Shelly did his client no favors by refusing to meet with Hearn.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by OnePunch
                  REGARDLESS of the business, if you really want a deal to happen, and the other side informs you they are in town and would like to do an informal sit-down, ANY rational businessman will take the meeting. Because WHY NOT? What did Shelly have to lose by sitting down with Hearn? Answer : NOTHING.
                  thank you for your opinion. since you lost money working in boxing and shelly is one of the most successful people in the history of boxing, is it possible he thought of reasons "why not" that you didnt have the intelligence or experience to think of?

                  clearly he had reasons why not. clearly he thought there was something to lose. so why would you be so quick to assume there was nothing to lose instead of realizing he might possibly know more than you about the psychology of nine figure negotiations?

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    thank you for your opinion. since you lost money working in boxing and shelly is one of the most successful people in the history of boxing, is it possible he thought of reasons "why not" that you didnt have the intelligence or experience to think of?

                    clearly he had reasons why not. clearly he thought there was something to lose. so why would you be so quick to assume there was nothing to lose instead of realizing he might possibly know more than you about the psychology of nine figure negotiations?
                    Frankly, I never worried about it because I was fortunate enough to have the resources to fund 12 years worth of shows. And besides, NOBODY makes money on club shows. NOBODY. Well except maybe Roy Englebrect.

                    But in over a decade, I probably only spent $200k or so of my own money. I spent more than that playing blackjack.

                    But its too bad I didnt lose $500 million, then I might have your admiration instead of your lame cracks.
                    Last edited by OnePunch; 07-05-2018, 11:21 PM.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by OnePunch
                      Frankly, I never worried about it because I was fortunate enough to have the resources to fund 12 years worth of shows. And besides, NOBODY makes money on club shows. NOBODY. Well except maybe Roy Englebrect.

                      But in over a decade, I probably only spent $200k or so of my own money. I spent more than that playing blackjack.

                      But its too bad I didnt lose $500 million, then I might have your admiration instead of your lame cracks.
                      why wont you answer my question? is it possible shelly is smarter than you or more experienced in nine figure negotiations and thought of things you didnt think of?

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