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  • that g
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    #221
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Because that is the language the WBA uses to justify approving unification over mandatory. Every time. All of the orgs approve unification over mandatory every time except the caveat with the IBF of it being too late once a purse bid is ordered.
    ok. this will be my second to last reply to you on this. you clearly have (or are pretending to have) a comprehension problem, coupled with a bias against joshua and hearn.

    the WBA rules clearly justifies or allows for unification to trump mandatory. but it is NOT a given, and each case is still subject to approval or denial by WBA at any time and for any reason.

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      #222
      Originally posted by that g
      coupled with a bias against joshua and hearn.
      What is the bias? I think Hearn is the best promoter on the planet and I think Joshua is the best fighter on the planet. But I also realize that any competent promoter with the #1 cash cow isn't going to be in a rush to put him in the ring with the most dangerous puncher.


      the WBA rules clearly justifies or allows for unification to trump mandatory. but it is NOT a given
      It's a given. They always approve it. We both know it would have been approved. A mere formality. To suggest otherwise is either extremely naive or deliberately obtuse.

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        #223
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        That is a lie. This is my only account.
        haha.

        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Each of us had one previous account ever here. We decided to open a joint account. None of us has had 3 or 4 iden****** ever here, let alone the past several years.
        still lying when you posted this just in this exact same thread? you have one joint account and at least one other account on here. come on man.

        oh and this is my last reply to you. have at it. you're a fraud who is not worth debating with.

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          #224
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Thats exactly how it goes down ?



          NO its not , even Don King got a chuckle when asked about the 50 Million offer that included NO stipulations attached to it !


          What went down was Hearn scheduled a meeting weeks prior to ACTUALLY discuss negotiating the fight and it was met with CANCELLATIONS ! That is a FACT .


          Now what happens after that despite your revisions is stalling on team Wilders part for months and ending with more stalling on a contract they AGREED too .

          You guys want to keep ignoring that though right ? lol



          O.K carry on story telling about b.s not associated to actually making the fight happen , thats what you guys do best on here !
          Team Wilder countered with a guaranteed offer of $50 million.

          Hearn and Joshua wanted to proof of funds - which they apparently received from Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel.

          The two sides have been in communication over the past two days, with very positive talks, and Hearn believes the fight is now much closer to coming off.

          Asked how likely the fight was to be agreed, Hearn exclusively told Sky Sports: “70 percent.”

          “Their side has been very vocal in letting the media know about everything that is happening. We’ve had some positive conversations over the past day or so. Negotiations are ongoing and we’re all hopeful to reach an agreement."

          Hearn issued some additional questions to Team Wilder, which the British promoter believes will be a true turning point in getting a deal wrapped up.

          " I will go back with some very simple questions, which hopefully they can answer, to put us in a position to know whether it is worth talking. We sent them [on Tuesday] night. They can’t not answer those questions. I believe they want to make the fight," Hearn said.

          If a deal is not reached for whatever reason, Joshua will likely make a mandatory defense against Alexander Povetkin of Russia.

          The WBA recently ordered Joshua to make a mandatory defense against Povetkin.

          “Povetkin is the guy we have to fight next,” Hearn explained. “If we fight Wilder, Povetkin will wait. Would we apply for a voluntary? Maybe. Would the WBA allow it? Maybe. But, really, it is Wilder or Povetkin. We are talking to Miller, but mainly we are talking to Povetkin because he is the guy we’ll have to fight if we don’t fight Wilder.”

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            #225
            Did hearn ask for proof of funds, he said he didnt

            Eddie Hearn insists the $50 million which Deontay Wilder has offered Anthony Joshua is of interest but wants to see proof of funds and the prospective venue and date when he meets Shelly Finkel and Al Haymon on Friday.

            Wilder e-mailed Hearn the offer for Joshua to fight him for the undisputed heavyweight championship in their next bout -- before the end of this year -- both sides told ESPN.

            But despite admitting they would take the offer seriously, Hearn was adamant that a number of issues need to be ironed out before a deal can be agreed.

            "They want total control of the show, date and venue of their choice. Not necessarily a deal breaker but if it is serious, we need to look at it, proof of funds, proper contract see the terms and what they require from us and we go from there," Hearn told IFL TV.

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              #226
              Originally posted by that g
              still lying when you posted this just in this exact same thread? you have one joint account and at least one other account on here. come on man.
              All three of us ceased using our previous individual accounts the day we created this joint account. None of us post from any other account. This is our only account.

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                #227
                Hearn met with Joshua a few days ago, and the boxer made it clear that he wants to fight Wilder on UK soil.

                Joshua's last three fights drew massive crowds, with 90,000 at his April 2017 bout with Wladimir Klitschko in Wembley, 76,000 for the October 2017 bout with Carlos Takam at Principality, and the same number for the March 2018 unification with Joseph Parker at Principality.

                However, Hearn admits the contest would make more money if the event was staged in the United States.

                Wilder's handler's have offered Joshua a guarantee of $50 million to make the fight on American soil.

                “I met with Anthony and his coach Rob McCracken on Tuesday to discuss our next move. AJ feels like he deserves it to the UK fans who have supported him up until now to make sure it happens at home," Hearn told BoxingScene.com's Declan Taylor.

                “It gets to the stage where we are asking ‘Why are we looking to do this in the US?’ Because it’s more money – but is that really important?

                “At the moment the fight makes more money in America but he feels like he owes it to the UK fans to do it at home.”

                On Thursday, Hearn staged a press conference in New York City to officially announce an eight-year, $1 billion deal with global streaming company Perform Group.

                Hearn's company will now stage 16 shows in the United States every year, while Perform Group will stream 16 of his UK cards live in the US - through the DAZN streaming service.

                “This is a truly historic moment for boxing and a very proud moment for me, my family and everyone at Matchroom," Hearn said.

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                • Holler
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  What is the bias?
                  It's very simple.

                  Either, as you contend, you are being paid to post here and in some sense represent the interests of the organisations in your username, in which case you are by your own words biased in favour of those interests, or, you're not who you claim to be and your contributions can be dismissed as the idle scribblings of the forum Walter Mitty, seeking to attribute additional weight to your speculations by formulating an industry background and semi-official status.

                  When I read you I choose to give you the benefit of the doubt and take you at your word, which means that I accept there's a level of bias in your contributions but that doesn't mean you won't also come up with a good point. If you're going to argue that there's no bias however then I can't take your explanation concerning your identity and the account seriously and neither should anyone else.

                  tldr?

                  You can't have it both ways amigo.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Holler
                    Either, as you contend, you are being paid to post here and in some sense represent the interests of the organisations in your username, in which case you are by your own words biased in favour of those interests, or, you're not who you claim to be and your contributions can be dismissed
                    I don't represent the interests of the organizations. If I did, I wouldn't have repeatedly advocated for their destruction. The day they lose their stranglehold will be a great day for the sport of boxing.

                    The entity that pays me to post here has not given me any agenda to push. My job is to simply clear up misconceptions about how the boxing business operates. I am free to criticize or praise whoever I wish.

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                    • Holler
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      I don't represent the interests of the organizations. If I did, I wouldn't have repeatedly advocated for their destruction. The day they lose their stranglehold will be a great day for the sport of boxing.

                      The entity that pays me to post here has not given me any agenda to push. My job is to simply clear upt misconceptions about how the boxing business operates. I am free to criticize or praise whoever I wish.
                      I appreciate the clarification but suggest my point still holds. Either you go for complete transparency and allow people to make their judgements on both the organisation that's paying you and their motives or accept that any reasonable observer would conclude that you are posting according to an agenda and that therefore it's reasonable to assume a level of bias must inform your output here.

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