Hearn sets the record straight

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1. if there was no risk of losing his belt, you are pretty much accusing sky sports, sporting news, review journal, espn, and a host of other reputable sports reporting agencies of lying then. that's what they all reported. i guess we all don't know how this works.

Correct. The media does a horrible job of covering the sanctioning bodies because they don't understand how they operate, they don't understand the complicated rules, and Hearn did a great job of spinning the WBA's announcement.

2. how do you know the povetkin fight wasn't signed already?

Because Povetkin's people admitted the other day the fight still isn't signed, but the deal is almost done. Hearn himself admitted the Povetkin fight wasn't signed even after the 24 hours. The 24 hours was nonsense.

3. even if it wasn't, which may well be true, all hearn has to show the WBA is that povetkin and joshua have agreed in principle, and that all he's doing is firming up the dates and venue.

And all Hearn had to show the WBA was that Wilder and Joshua have agreed in principle and all he's doing is firming up the date and venue. Which if Hearn was telling the truth, is all that was left. Wilder agreed to EVERYTHING. Just needed a date. Then Hearn pulled a swerve and sent April as the date.

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You've been telling us that Hearn must verbally, or in writing say yes to something without knowing full details regarding the 50m offer to push ahead with the fight

Hearn didn't send Wilder a contract until Wilder agreed to the purse. Standard procedure. Hearn lies to the fans about standard procedure to trick them when it suits his agenda. There was no reason for Hearn to be sent a contract when the term sheet wasn't agreeable.

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didn't hearn say he got his 4 questions answered concerning the 50mil? why is the 24 hours still being brought up? the 24 hours people should be focusing on is the 24 hours hearn n aj had to sign the pedvtkin fight or be stripped. what happened to that?

You don't know what goes on behind the scenes. People are announcing fights at certain times to maximize publicity.

For example, announcing an AJ fight in the middle of England football mania is not great.

Just because Wilder and Dinkle run to the media even before they contact other teams, doesn't mean professional outfits do.

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Hearn didn't send Wilder a contract until Wilder agreed to the purse. Standard procedure. Hearn lies to the fans about standard procedure to trick them when it suits his agenda. There was no reason for Hearn to be sent a contract when the term sheet wasn't agreeable.

But Hearn didn't ask for a contract. he asked for a meeting.
which was flat out denied

Absolutely amateur stuff.

If Wilder and his team genuinely wanted to make the fight and had a serious way of giving a proper offer with guaranteed funds etc, they'd have no problem discussing it like a normal person.

Instead they acted like children and cancelled everything. which has pretty much been the gist of everything they've done in this entire saga, ever since Wilder came out for the first time and said AJ had been ducking him for years.

hahahaha

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AJ & Povetkin can sign a deal up until 15 minutes before the purse bid envelopes are opened.

So the purse bid being ordered just buys everyone an extra two weeks.

Meaning that the WBA's "deadline" wasn't the reason Hearn took the Wilder fight off the table for 2018. It absolutely proves Hearn is lying about why he refused to do the fight in 2018.

the extra two weeks would only be able to protect AJ and Povetkin signing, not AJ and wilder. you're twisting again.. If wilder signed after the WBA issued their statement, WBA would look like fools if they didn't strip joshua of the belt because they already issued the ultimatum. WBA wouldn't do that, nor should you expect them to.

in fact, humour me. do you have concrete examples of boxing bodies backing down after issuing an ultimatum like this?

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But Hearn didn't ask for a contract. he asked for a meeting.
which was flat out denied

Absolutely amateur stuff.

If Wilder and his team genuinely wanted to make the fight and had a serious way of giving a proper offer with guaranteed funds etc, they'd have no problem discussing it like a normal person.

Instead they acted like children and cancelled everything. which has pretty much been the gist of everything they've done in this entire saga, ever since Wilder came out for the first time and said AJ had been ducking him for years.

hahahaha

sir, when hearn said he got his 4 questions answered about the 50mil what did he mean?

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But Hearn didn't ask for a contract. he asked for a meeting.

And the meeting was canceled because Hearn refused to confirm if AJ's 50 million request was legitimate.

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the extra two weeks would only be able to protect AJ and Povetkin signing, not AJ and wilder.

Wrong. Because until the purse bid is held, unification will still trump mandatory.

What you're saying would only be true if it was the IBF. In the IBF, once the purse bid is ordered, it's too late for a unification to take priority.

But in the WBA, it's not too late.

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Correct. The media does a horrible job of covering the sanctioning bodies because they don't understand how they operate, they don't understand the complicated rules, and Hearn did a great job of spinning the WBA's announcement.

lol then we're all screwed aren't we? boxing scene, all forum members, because we read and comment on articles that are pure rubbish, pro-wilder or pro-joshua. come on man. this is just ridiculous, even for you.

Because Povetkin's people admitted the other day the fight still isn't signed, but the deal is almost done. Hearn himself admitted the Povetkin fight wasn't signed even after the 24 hours. The 24 hours was nonsense.

And all Hearn had to show the WBA was that Wilder and Joshua have agreed in principle and all he's doing is firming up the date and venue. Which if Hearn was telling the truth, is all that was left. Wilder agreed to EVERYTHING. Just needed a date. Then Hearn pulled a swerve and sent April as the date.

fair enough.
well, hearn did that for 2 WEEKS!! wilder agreed in principle, but then when he got the contract, he and his team refused to sign and continued to stall. no comments back, no signed contract.

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Wrong. Because until the purse bid is held, unification will still trump mandatory.

What you're saying would only be true if it was the IBF. In the IBF, once the purse bid is ordered, it's too late for a unification to take priority.

But in the WBA, it's not too late.

interesting how you've parsed out the rest of my post a few times now.
unification trumping mandatory is not in the rule book. its a courtesy that can be removed at anytime.
unification for wilder stopped trumping mandatory when finkel pulled a silly PR stunt by announcing intentions to comment, instead of just commenting.