Even the Brits admit Wilder has the most Prestigious belt

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • MUNG
    Death Dealer
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • May 2009
    • 4183
    • 438
    • 79
    • 31,567

    #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Not his fault that Kovalev blatantly ducked him and vacated his mandatory position.
    Hold on a sec, maybe im behind on this stuff, as far as i remember stevenson moved promoter (correct me if im wrong) simply to avoid kovalev. I really cannot see kovalev avoiding stevenson, everything has been the other way around, kovalev looks the type of guy who will fight anyone, not stevenson. So all this calling out by kovalev has been faked by him for some reason??

    Comment

    • MUNG
      Death Dealer
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • May 2009
      • 4183
      • 438
      • 79
      • 31,567

      #52
      for the wbc to be any better u would have to have the "better" boxers targeting it and holding it and not bothering with the other belts, ive never heard someone say well this guy was a double world champ, well actually this guy was a wbc champ, so there!!!! who wins that obvious is it not, or is it p

      Comment

      • MUNG
        Death Dealer
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • May 2009
        • 4183
        • 438
        • 79
        • 31,567

        #53
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Stiverne was far more highly regarded than Charles Martin.

        The IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight titles all have recent lineage breaks from Fury vacating.

        Wilder didn't win a vacant title and didn't win a title that was just vacated.
        Wilder Be Cool

        Comment

        • Boxfan83
          The Coach
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Feb 2015
          • 15853
          • 2,103
          • 733
          • 160,371

          #54
          Lets see what ridiculous looking belt the WBC makes for Wilder vs Joshua.

          Comment

          • ashadam
            Interim Champion
            Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
            • Jan 2017
            • 555
            • 15
            • 0
            • 8,265

            #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            I'm sorry but I don't care what you care about. Stiverne was #2 in the world according the the world's leading experts. Wilder beat him straight up. If you want to rewrite history, you're only fooling yourself.
            Wow do you just make up things as you go, what is up with you.

            Comment

            • MUNG
              Death Dealer
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • May 2009
              • 4183
              • 438
              • 79
              • 31,567

              #56
              the brits like the wbc cos they can be fat and not fight and still get in their rankings, like fury at heavyweight at 7

              even the wbo dont have him top 15, anyone who has fury top 10 now needs to be disbanded

              edit, they also have bellew at 5 wow
              Last edited by MUNG; 07-05-2018, 11:10 AM.

              Comment

              • sensfulviolence
                Contender
                Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                • Mar 2009
                • 128
                • 15
                • 25
                • 6,844

                #57
                Belts and alphabets dont mean squat.

                Hell, even lineal doesnt mean anything to me. Stevenson is still lineal at LHW (despite what the Ring says), but he isnt top 3 in the division IMO.

                Look at who each fighter has fought. Wilder didnt have much of a resume until the Ortiz win. AJ is a bit better.

                But it wont be resolved until they fight one another. So all this comparisons of belts is nonsense.

                Comment

                • N/A
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 9269
                  • 214
                  • 0
                  • 12

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Songbird
                  Hold on a sec, maybe im behind on this stuff, as far as i remember stevenson moved promoter (correct me if im wrong) simply to avoid kovalev. I really cannot see kovalev avoiding stevenson, everything has been the other way around, kovalev looks the type of guy who will fight anyone, not stevenson. So all this calling out by kovalev has been faked by him for some reason??
                  Kovalev requested to fight Jean Pascal for the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested to become Stevenson's mandatory if he won the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested a 50/50 purse split if he became Stevenson's mandatory.

                  The WBC said yes to all of these requests and Stevenson didn't object to any of these requests.

                  Once Kovalev had the WBC diamond belt and was declared Stevenson's mandatory with a 50/50 purse split, the WBC ordered a purse bid for the fight. At the time, Kovalev's HBO contract had just expired and he was a television free agent.

                  Stevenson agreed to the purse bid, but Kovalev pulled out and vacated his WBC diamond belt, refusing to accept the fight with Stevenson.

                  All of this is easily verifiable publicly available information. Please let me know if any aspect of the above information is something you would like me to supply sources for. Happy to help.

                  Comment

                  • MUNG
                    Death Dealer
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • May 2009
                    • 4183
                    • 438
                    • 79
                    • 31,567

                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Kovalev requested to fight Jean Pascal for the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested to become Stevenson's mandatory if he won the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested a 50/50 purse split if he became Stevenson's mandatory.

                    The WBC said yes to all of these requests and Stevenson didn't object to any of these requests.

                    Once Kovalev had the WBC diamond belt and was declared Stevenson's mandatory with a 50/50 purse split, the WBC ordered a purse bid for the fight. At the time, Kovalev's HBO contract had just expired and he was a television free agent.

                    Stevenson agreed to the purse bid, but Kovalev pulled out and vacated his WBC diamond belt, refusing to accept the fight with Stevenson.

                    All of this is easily verifiable publicly available information. Please let me know if any aspect of the above information is something you would like me to supply sources for. Happy to help.
                    "We want to make the fight very much and we'd love to make the fight with them on a 50-50 deal," Duva told ESPN.com. "But Sergey is contractually tied to HBO and we can't go to a purse bid. We can't fight the fight if we lose the bid, so there's no point in going to the bid and putting on charade."

                    About the stevenson fight:

                    That seems to be the explanation of why kovalev pulled out, whats going on here do you know?

                    Comment

                    • Lopez_Boxing
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 4655
                      • 245
                      • 81
                      • 97,428

                      #60
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Wilder beat the #2 fighter in the world for his title. AJ beat the #9 fighter in the world for his title.

                      Wilder's title has the longest lineage. AJ's titles were all vacated by Fury.




                      Thank you for your opinion. Unfortunately, the entire sport revolves around the belts. So they only mean nothing in the sense that life means nothing, but in the sport of boxing, the belts mean everything.




                      You're rewriting history. AJ was handed a belt by fighting a bum. Wilder earned his belt by fighting the #2 guy in the division.




                      AJ's promoter refused to allow Wilder to fight AJ next. That's not Wilder's fault.

                      AJ asked for 50 million and was given 50 million, but still ducked the fight.

                      50 million would be the highest purse in heavyweight history.
                      You’re full of knowledge that can be backed with facts. Unfortunately that makes you a “fan boy” and an idiot around here. Props for being a fan of the sport. Wish there where more like you

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP