Even the Brits admit Wilder has the most Prestigious belt

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  • Laligalaliga
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    There’s so much wrong with this...
    Point them out then.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
      Point them out then.
      I’m glad you like the IBO’s ranking system. So do I. That doesn’t mean it’s a major title. Just because AJ holds it also doesn’t make it a major title. It’s not a major title. It’s nowhere near the other four titles.

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      • DaaamnSon
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        #23
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        I’m glad you like the IBO’s ranking system. So do I. That doesn’t mean it’s a major title. Just because AJ holds it also doesn’t make it a major title. It’s not a major title. It’s nowhere near the other four titles.
        This is true. Far too many belts in the sport as it is don't need another one to be recognized.

        Generally I've always thought that the four major belts have always been WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, WBO ranked in that order.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #24
          Originally posted by _Rexy_
          I’m glad you like the IBO’s ranking system. So do I. That doesn’t mean it’s a major title. Just because AJ holds it also doesn’t make it a major title. It’s not a major title. It’s nowhere near the other four titles.
          Have you forgotten that a champion makes the belt not belt makes champions.
          AJ makes every belt equal. Am not interested in the politics behind which is more prestigious than the other, they are mere distractions.
          He carries all the belts with equal confidence and prestige, that makes them equal.

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          • Chrismart
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            #25
            I never look beyond the fighter. For me, the fighter and who he fights determine what kind of champion he is, not the letters on the front of his belt.

            Be it favouritism, hypocrisy, poor ranking, bias relationships with certain promoters...all the organisations are like each other.

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            • Rubber Ducky
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              #26
              As others have suggested now with the sheer proliferation of titles which has watered down the significance of these titles it's now the champion that makes the belt not the belt that makes the champion.

              A belt helps get you established and TV networks like the branding it brings but once you reach the elite level the belts mean little.

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                #27
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Wilder beat the #2 fighter in the world for his title. AJ beat the #9 fighter in the world for his title.

                Wilder's title has the longest lineage. AJ's titles were all vacated by Fury.




                Thank you for your opinion. Unfortunately, the entire sport revolves around the belts. So they only mean nothing in the sense that life means nothing, but in the sport of boxing, the belts mean everything.




                You're rewriting history. AJ was handed a belt by fighting a bum. Wilder earned his belt by fighting the #2 guy in the division.




                AJ's promoter refused to allow Wilder to fight AJ next. That's not Wilder's fault.

                AJ asked for 50 million and was given 50 million, but still ducked the fight.

                50 million would be the highest purse in heavyweight history.
                Stiverne the number #2 guy in the division give me a break. I don't care if you have some sort of ranking stat to prove that's. Anyone who has watched boxing knows Stiverne is a fat bum who never beat anyone of note and is useless and is on par with Charles martin.. At least AJ has beat some legit guys.

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                • Vinnykin
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                  #28
                  The WBC is the most prestigious belt because of its history, but to British people the Lonsdale is more prestigious in a way as it's the oldest belt and the home of boxing.

                  Just having the WBC does not mean what it used to, I think we can all agree, there's just too many belts no one cares any more. It depends on who holds it and the defences as well. In this case, it's not had much value since Klitschko had it, it hasn't been involved in any big fights, it's prestige does not match up at all here.

                  I'd rather have any 2 unified titles than just have a WBC title personally. Having a single title that you beat a champion with no defences for is not prestigious at all.

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                  • _Rexy_
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    Have you forgotten that a champion makes the belt not belt makes champions.
                    AJ makes every belt equal. Am not interested in the politics behind which is more prestigious than the other, they are mere distractions.
                    He carries all the belts with equal confidence and prestige, that makes them equal.
                    And just because you believe that doesn't make it true.

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                    • j0zef
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                      #30
                      WBC generally is more prestigious, but it's not more prestigious than other 2 or 3 combined. Also in regards to the fighters themselves, if I had to pick one guy to say he's he real champ, I'd go Joshua easily. He beat former lineal champ and has more defenses against top5/10/20

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