Even the Brits admit Wilder has the most Prestigious belt

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for the wbc to be any better u would have to have the "better" boxers targeting it and holding it and not bothering with the other belts, ive never heard someone say well this guy was a double world champ, well actually this guy was a wbc champ, so there!!!! who wins that obvious is it not, or is it p

Mayweather only fought for the wbc. Didn’t even take Shane’s belts when he won. He’s as a “better” boxer as they get. I thought it’s was already widely know the green belt was the most prestigious

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Wilder has stated that he wants to unify, therefore to him, his WBC belt alone is not enough. He will be challenging for Joshua's 4 belts. He will not be able command a 50-50 split as a challenger who holds 1 belt, despite its "prestige".

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Mayweather only fought for the wbc. Didn’t even take Shane’s belts when he won. He’s as a “better” boxer as they get. I thought it’s was already widely know the green belt was the most prestigious

mayweather also said belts are only good for collecting dust, including the wbc i presume

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"We want to make the fight very much and we'd love to make the fight with them on a 50-50 deal," Duva told ESPN.com. "But Sergey is contractually tied to HBO and we can't go to a purse bid. We can't fight the fight if we lose the bid, so there's no point in going to the bid and putting on charade."

About the stevenson fight:

That seems to be the explanation of why kovalev pulled out, whats going on here do you know?

Duva used the Stevenson fight as leverage to get HBO to increase their offer for a new TV deal. Then ducked the Stevenson fight to go sign another contract with HBO instead.

[Lopez_Boxing]

mayweather also said belts are only good for collecting dust, including the wbc i presume

HE held the wbc until retirement

[MUNG]

Duva used the Stevenson fight as leverage to get HBO to increase their offer for a new TV deal. Then ducked the Stevenson fight to go sign another contract with HBO instead.

So you are saying that kovalev ducked stevenson and got a better tv deal out of doing it?

How did the stevenson fight twist hbos arm to give them a better deal?

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So you are saying that kovalev ducked stevenson and got a better tv deal out of doing it?

correct.

How did the stevenson fight twist hbos arm to give them a better deal?

hbo knew haymon would win the purse bid and take the fight to showtime.

had kovalev won the fight, he could have gone back to hbo with more leverage than ever and gotten an even better contract.

but had kovalev lost the fight, he'd have no leverage with hbo whatsoever and would have ended up with no deal at all, or a greatly reduced deal.

the safe decision was to duck the fight and resign with hbo. i would have done the same thing.

but when fans want to assign blame for the fight not happening, the bottom line is that stevenson was willing to risk everything and kovalev wasnt. had stevenson lost and kovalev returned to hbo, showtime wouldnt have been interested in stevenson anymore.

it would have been a cash out fight where the winner was in the ultimate position and the loser was ****ed. stevenson was willing to take that risk. kovalev wasnt.

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it would have been a cash out fight where the winner was in the ultimate position and the loser was ****ed. stevenson was willing to take that risk. kovalev wasnt.

So you are basically saying that kovalev was given everything he wanted, the shot v stevenson, the cash, the whole lot, he didnt accept it to get a better contract with hbo and not only that, he then went on to publicly call him chickerson multiple times when asked about a future clash giving the impression that stevenson was the cause of the failure of the fight.

Jeez, i dont know, it just doesnt sound great to me, stevenson went on to fight bums once a year in canada until his last fight and kovalev is travelling here and there fighting good opponents, its an odd one

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So you are basically saying that kovalev was given everything he wanted, the shot v stevenson, the cash, the whole lot, he didnt accept it to get a better contract with hbo and not only that, he then went on to publicly call him chickerson multiple times when asked about a future clash giving the impression that stevenson was the cause of the failure of the fight.

Correct.

Jeez, i dont know, it just doesnt sound great to me, stevenson went on to fight bums once a year in canada until his last fight and kovalev is travelling here and there fighting good opponents, its an odd one

Showtime pays more than HBO. Stevenson is making more than Kovalev. But Kovalev has the safety of guaranteed dates. Whereas had he fought Stevenson and lost, he risked neither premium network wanting him as a featured fighter anymore.

[Laligalaliga]

well, clearly you're new to the sport, since you picked a belt that nobody has tried to win, nobody has tried to defend, and you likely don't know a single HW IBO champ other than AJ. It's a throw in title, it's not a recognized world title. I'm happy you think it's the most prestigious title, but you're wrong. It's not a matter of opinion.

Ever heard of Kevin Lerena? No? He's the IBO Crusierweight Champion.

Heard of Igor Mikhalkin? I'm sure you have. He just got his ass kicked by Krusher. Surprisingly, the match was only for Kovalevs WBO strap. Kov didn't care about your prestigious IBO belt

Tsiko Mulovhedzi is the IBO Welterweight Champion of the world. He's the 55th ranked WW in the world, and has a record of 12-8


See a trend? Sure there are a few "names" who hold the IBO (AJ, GGG, Hurd) but for the most part, it's C level fighters. And the "names" who have won it, just won a vacant throw in belt when they were fighting for a different title (AJ won it when he was competing for the WBA it was a vacant throw in title, GGG won it vacant, Hurd won it while competing for the WBA and IBO)

By your logic the WBC Silver belt is higher ranked than the WBC World title because you think Whyte > Wilder.


EDIT - Karo Murat is the IBO Light Heavyweight Champion. He won the vacant title a few months ago, and nobody even noticed.

You have made some decent points about IBO that tends to push them backward.
What will you say about the other 3 belts?