Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Responds To Errol Spence's Stance on Promoters

[PranMatic]

There's only on person in America putting on PPV cards and that's Canelo, who was built up by Schaefer and helped by being on Floyd's PPV cards.

There are 2 future PPV fights everyone want so see and they both involve Haymon fighters, Spence and Wilder.

HA, that's a hell of a spin! The ONLY reason Deontay has a potential PPV coming up is because of the Biggest draw in boxing in AJ, who is promoted by Hearn

And the reason why Spence has a PPV coming up is he might be fighting Crawford, who is promoted by Arum, what a coincidence that there's a promoter on the other end of both fights.

Say what you want about Arum, I think he's scum too, but no doubt he's done a wonderful job promoting not only Crawford, but Loma as well on ESPN the last year.

More and more casual fans seen these two fighters because promoters have long term plans and ideas right than short term like Haymon does.

[GodLike]

Which other GB fighters are making 10, 15, 20 million dollars other than canleo with an entire country behind him?

[Nightfall]

De la ho ****ty because Spence is following Haymon's lead. promoters will stop the best fighters from fighting the best. Al Haymon the adviser.

[Removed Now]

Spence doesn't have the personality to sell PPV. Now Broner if he would had trained and stopped rapping he would had done numbers on PPV with his antics. Canelo is supported largely by Mexicans and Mexican Americans. He's not that big in USA among casuals. Oscar doesn't know how to promote non Mexicans. I said it!!!!!!!

[Usetoloveboxing]

The reason Canelo is popular is the Mexican boxing crowd. Spence isn't Mexican, or British and those are 2 huge boxing fan bases. I hope Americans take note of him, but with the corruption and politics the sport is killing itself.

[Ake-Dawg]

One thing about signing to promoter's is they have limited time, resources and budgets meaning if you aren't top priority you get none of the benefits. Loma, and TC are top at TR, they get love, but Gilberto Ramirez's and others get nothing really.

Canelo is GB's only selling point and he was built during the glory (Shaeffer) days. Jojo Diaz, Linares and the others don't really get much and there is a reason Oscar didn't mention their names in his little rebuttal.

I agree for a new fighter it makes sense because he will need to build hid name somehow, but then again Devin Haney is moving along at the same rate as Garcia and Shakur and he self promotes as well.

The value in promoters is really diminishing as boxing became more niche and social media gave fighters direct access for networks to scout their own talent

Spot on. No one is providing specific reasons why a promoter is necessary beyond start up. If you have an adviser/manager who can find you good opponents and negotiate your deals, what good is a promoter if said promoter does nothing for you in between fights.

Shakur Stevenson and Devan Haney's careers are definitely two to watch regarding the promoter/no promoter career development perspective.

[IMDAZED]

HA, that's a hell of a spin! The ONLY reason Deontay has a potential PPV coming up is because of the Biggest draw in boxing in AJ, who is promoted by Hearn

And the reason why Spence has a PPV coming up is he might be fighting Crawford, who is promoted by Arum, what a coincidence that there's a promoter on the other end of both fights.

Say what you want about Arum, I think he's scum too, but no doubt he's done a wonderful job promoting not only Crawford, but Loma as well on ESPN the last year.

More and more casual fans seen these two fighters because promoters have long term plans and ideas right than short term like Haymon does.

Both those guys are over 30 so why aren’t they bigger stars yet? They’ve both been on channels with bigger suscriber bases than Spence and they have a promoter.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

There's only on person in America putting on PPV cards and that's Canelo, who was built up by Schaefer and helped by being on Floyd's PPV cards.

There are 2 future PPV fights everyone want so see and they both involve Haymon fighters, Spence and Wilder.

Stop acting like Wilder is a PPV star. It's Anthony Joshua. Wilder won't have a PPV fight against anyone else if it's not AJ.

[HURTFEELINGS]

Boxers get blamed for ducking certain fighters, when its the promoters actually making the fights. So why not. When a promoter cant make the fight happen, the boxer gets blamed. Floyd signed the BIGGEST SPORTS contract with Showtime with Al Haymon as his "Advisor", his last fights where vs Pac (over 300m),
Berto (36mil)
Connor (over 300mil)
Please name me a "Promoter" who has ever dont that for a fighter........................................... ............................... The two top fighters Arum ever had left him and became bigger Superstars (Oscar, Floyd), one stayed (Pac).......look at the difference in their careers regarding financial stability.....Pac (debt), Floyd/Oscar (MONEY). TR biggest fight, was vs Floyd.
Oscars biggest fight was vs Floyd. Oscars biggest fight as a promoter was vs Floyd. (Canelo)
Just because some of you hate floyd, you cant nor want to see anything he's done as being successful. Please name a boxer as successful as Floyd that has fought EVERYONE, when requested, at the right time, at the right moment with all stipulations geared against him, with the opponents fav ref, your fav network, your fav announcer team, because this is what you guys think is best for "boxing". And Oscar is going to argue against promoters/himself, FOR WHAT REASON. thats bad for his business, his business

[mvooom]

Spence has been a pro for 6 years roughly so lets look at a side-by-side comparison of 6 years in the pro game for Spence aand Oscar.


Oscar De La Hoya:
Jorge Paez
John John Molina
Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Jesse James Leija
Julio Cesar Chavez 2x
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Wilfredo Rivera

Errol Spence Jr.
Chris van Heerden
Chris Algieri
Kell Brook
Lamont Peterson

Spence turned pro late at 22 and is 28 now so lets flash forward to who else Oscar fought by the time he was 28.

Ike Quartey
Oba Carr
Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosely
Arturo Gatti
Castillejo

It's pretty clear Spence is being mishandled. The reason why Oscar is a legend is because he had a good promoter that made great fights. Spence has a few years left before he starts declining.

You missed it by a mile.

You listed a bunch of popular fighters, atgs, legends.... Who fought Oscar. Tell me, who is Spence's Hector Camacho, Ike, Gatti, Mosley, Trinidad, Pernell W or Chavez? None.

Spence options are Pacquiao which is not happening, Crawford, Thurman, Garcia, Porter and if he decided to move up Charlo, Hurd lol... Even if he goes nuts and hits 160 he won't be a PPV star cuz none of these guys are worth it themselves.

Today's Andre-Ward character type of fighters just don't cut it when it comes to PPV stars. You need more than skill or tough fights to cross over to the casuals.