Why is the WBC wrong for enforcing a mandatory on GGG?

[Citizen Koba]

Wrong. The draw is what made him the mandatory. A mandatory WBC fight at middleweight hasn't taken place since 2012.




Wade was IBF mandatory. Then GGG had voluntary. Jacobs was WBA mandatory. Then GGG had voluntary. Canelo rematch was going to be WBC mandatory. Fight didn't happen.

IBF says now their mandatory is next. WBC says woah woah woah, it's still our turn.

I'm trying to get some clarity on whether Canelo actually remains Golovkin's mandatory after his ban and the cancellation on May 5th though. If that was the case surely they would be talking about stripping Golovkin if he chose not to fight Canelo - not talking about him being required to immediately fight Charlo. The implication would seem to be that Canelo is no longer mandatory. If this is the case the WBC should have made it's position clear immediately it de-mandated Canelo (presumably at the time of his ban).

In failing to do so and allowing the IBF to pursue Golovkin for it's own mandatory it's put Golovkin in a position where he is now potentially being expected to fight two mandatories simultaneously through no fault of his own (although IMO he really should have fought - or attempted to fight - Derevyanchenko in May). As you say though - trhis is one for the WBC and IBF to sort out between them. I think what most people are concerned about is simply the timing of this announcement by the WBC, not the fact of them attempting to enforce a mando.

[pepzz]

I'm trying to get some clarity on whether Canelo actually remains Golovkin's mandatory after his ban and the cancellation on May 5th though. If that was the case surely they would be talking about stripping Golovkin if he chose not to fight Canelo - not talking about him being required to immediately fight Charlo. The implication would seem to be that Canelo is no longer mandatory. If this is the case the WBC should have made it's position clear immediately it de-mandated Canelo (presumably at the time of his ban).

In failing to do so and allowing the IBF to pursue Golovkin for it's own mandatory it's put Golovkin in a position where he is now potentially being expected to fight two mandatories simultaneously through no fault of his own (although IMO he really should have fought - or attempted to fight - Derevyanchenko in May). As you say though - trhis is one for the WBC and IBF to sort out between them. I think what most people are concerned about is simply the timing of this announcement by the WBC, not the fact of them attempting to enforce a mando.

Canelito was never his mandatory lol

[abracada]

i just hope GGG-Charlo is on free tv

Mwahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaah

[Rock&Roll]

Because the WBC ordered a mandatory rematch since the first fight ended in a controversial draw. Since it's the WBC's turn in the mandatory rotation, the Canelo rematch was going to count as the WBC mandatory. If the fight isn't going to happen, the WBC says it should still be their turn and interim champion Charlo should be next in the rotation. The WBC doesn't want to get skipped.

Thank you for replying to the first sentence of my comment....

Surely you don't get caught and suspended for drugs then straight back into mandatory challenger once the suspension is up. What sort of message is the wbc sending?
Did Povetkin get straight back in wbc mandatory spot after he failed?

[rickJen]

GGG vs Charlo is a huge money fight.
Maybe not bigger than the Cnelo fight.
Far bigger than with BJS, Murata, Derevyanchenko.
So Loeffler needs to start thinking hard about the Charlo alternative.

[jas]

Lol at anyone thinking ggg is ducking charlo

Very good fight though

Will see how good gggs chin is. We already know its iron
Will find out if is legendary

[Citizen Koba]

Canelito was never his mandatory lol

That is what I had thought, however it turns out that that the WBC did, in fact, order the rematch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GdfIvFKJug

From the fat bast... err... horse's mouth itself.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I'm critical of all sanctioning bodies and unproven mandatory challengers, not just in this instance.

Yes it would be interesting to see what ggg could do with all theses fighters...but you know what else would be interesting? If some of these guys fought each other and solidified themselves as clear cut top contenders. We got a division with some good fighters and the champion is busy chasing a payday while the other guys are sitting around waiting for a shot while facing soft opposition. Ggg vs whoever isn't the only good fight that can be made.

The bold: The thing about this not happening has to do with sanctioning bodies. These guys don't wanna fight each other because each guy is strategically positioned under a different sanctioning body and is in fact a contender to a belt. Why waste a fight on a nobody when you can fight the champion straight?

One of the solutions is a tournament of all tier 1 middleweight contenders. With the current boxing politics, I don't see that one happening any time soon.

These new guys are definitely an upgrade from Wade et al.

[turnedup]

The bold: The thing about this not happening has to do with sanctioning bodies. These guys don't wanna fight each other because each guy is strategically positioned under a different sanctioning body and is in fact a contender to a belt. Why waste a fight on a nobody when you can fight the champion straight?

One of the solutions is a tournament of all tear 1 middleweight contenders. With the current boxing politics, I don't see that one happening any time soon.

These new guys are definitely an upgrade from Wade et al.

The tournament is something I can get behind, it's the only way to force promoters into working together. No participation in the tournament = lose your ranking position. The fact is if Golovkin fights Canelo none of these guys is getting a shot at any of those belts for at least the next year or so, plenty of time for a tournament to make progress. Everyone makes money, people who don't want to fight each other now have to fight each other and you break apart the promoter monopolies.

[stealthradon]

Lol at anyone thinking ggg is ducking charlo

Very good fight though

Will see how good gggs chin is. We already know its iron
Will find out if is legendary

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I think both Jacobs and Lemieux hit harder than Charlo.