Comments Thread For: We Have Never Seen Anything Like Lomachenko

[Steven Mccowan]

Floyd was too great to make it competitive. Lomo-Linares was competitive.

Thats silly also. Floyd fought plodders. Never would fight khan and had very competitice fights with Maidana, Castillo. Enough said

[Steven Mccowan]

Tyson was sparring Carl "The Truth" Williams when he was 18. He beat James "Quick" Tillis on May 3rd, and beat Mitch Green on May 20th in the same year. In fact he fought 13 times in 1986, finishing with a win over Trevor Berbick, winning the HW Championship @ age 20! Yeah, but I guess everybody does that!

Ha. These kids on here dont get that. They here a persons breakdown on a fighter and just go with it and never learn. Good lesson there fella, nice to see

[Steven Mccowan]

Well technically, he didn’t win THEE heavyweight championship until he beat Spinks, who we all know was a light heavyweight fortunate enough to catch an old Larry Holmes. Most heavyweights are rated based on how they did against the best of their time. And in Mike’s time, Lewis, Holyfield, and Bowe were the best guys. He never fought Bowe. And not only did he lose to Lewis and Holyfield. He wasn’t competitive against either guy. It’s kinda hard for me to call a guy great when in three fights against guys that were great, I stuggle to find rounds he won.

In mikes prime he woulda killed lewis. And holyfield. Holyfield was a cruiserweight during mikes prime as well. Just moving up. Ive read many ppl talk about mike vs lewis sparring during mikes prime and lets just say it wasnt competitive. I always say tyson is the most overrated and underrated fighter ever lol. He had a 5 yr prime. Is what it is

[Feint First]

He is a tough - tough courageous fighter - a credit to boxing. But, he got hit with every punch in the book. It's sad that his trainer, like every other trainer, knows nothing about head motion.

Lomo needs this coach to become TBE.

[whoseyourdaddy]

Stylistically, Loma's style is very similar to Orlando Canizales'.

If you are unfamiliar with Orlando Canizales, check out his footage on YouTube.

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The Sacrilege you just committed is beyond appalled, ¿¿¿similar to Orlando Canizales!!??? What!!! when in hell Canizales avoided punches like Loma? when in hell did Canizales had such an athletic foot work? and lastly when in hell did Canizales had such effective defense and offence??

the things you read in this site

[whoseyourdaddy]

Great amateur career but as a pro he's a very good show opener. That version of Loma gets knocked out by Tank Davis and Mikey Garcia.

Davis the one that refuse to fight him, ran and hided behind Mayweather's dress? and Mikey the one the keeps jumping up and down weight classes just to avoid a challenge? Wow now a heard all.

[Bronx2245]

Well technically, he didn’t win THEE heavyweight championship until he beat Spinks, who we all know was a light heavyweight fortunate enough to catch an old Larry Holmes. Most heavyweights are rated based on how they did against the best of their time. And in Mike’s time, Lewis, Holyfield, and Bowe were the best guys. He never fought Bowe. And not only did he lose to Lewis and Holyfield. He wasn’t competitive against either guy. It’s kinda hard for me to call a guy great when in three fights against guys that were great, I stuggle to find rounds he won.

I brought up Mike as an example of a young guy (HW Champ @ 22), that just ripped through his competiton, compared to a guy who didn't have his 1st pro fight until 25! Berbick, Bonecrusher, Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Holmes, Tubbs, Spinks, Bruno, and Williams, all before his 25th birthday! That list is better than Wilder and Joshua's!

[Jedi Vader]

Good post, and I agree with the Pacquiao rather than Mayweather comparison.

I don't agree that Lomachenko is nowhere near as skilled as Floyd though. It's just that their skills are completely different skills so it slightly defies comparison.

Floyd had an incredible innate sense of distance and positioning. The way he would shut down his opponent's offence was just amazing to watch. His sense of where he could hit and not get hit is probably the best I've ever seen. Loma cannot do that, he just doesn't have the ability to do it (as far as we have seen)

Loma's much more like Pacquiao in that he gets his edge over his opponents by being extremely skilled and very athletic. They both look at their opponent and say "whatever you're bringing, I'll do it faster and at a higher level than you and I'll go to a place you can't match".

On the other hand Mayweather would be saying to his opponent "everything you've done before to get you to this point as a fighter won't work against me, because my knowledge of the game is so intensely high that I can distort the programming that you have trained into yourself as a fighter. I can stand in such a way that you think you can hit me when in actual fact you can't. I can also stand in such a way that you KNOW that you cannot launch an attack at me without being countered" (this last one was how he would completely shut down fighters' offence). It really was beautiful to watch, the pressure on Floyd's opponents at every moment in a fight was intense. This is a discussion for another time but I don't think Floyd would have matched up with Hearns well at all - Hearns's length would have given him fits imo.

Loma's not in the same zip-code as Floyd when it comes to that low-pace, potshotting, aggressive defence style; but it's not fair to equate that to a lack of "skills". The way that Loma could move around the pocket so fluidly and create angles to attack his opponent is actually better than Floyd in my opinion, even if he can't do that magician **** we saw Floyd do.

Enjoy both fighters on their own merits would be my advice.

A great post up until the penultimate sentence.

Floyd moved better than anyone at 130-135.

[hitking]

I brought up Mike as an example of a young guy (HW Champ @ 22), that just ripped through his competiton, compared to a guy who didn't have his 1st pro fight until 25! Berbick, Bonecrusher, Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Holmes, Tubbs, Spinks, Bruno, and Williams, all before his 25th birthday! That list is better than Wilder and Joshua's!

I don’t think I ever said Mike was trash. I said against the best of his era, he wasn’t competitive. That means something bro.

[hitking]

Ha. These kids on here dont get that. They here a persons breakdown on a fighter and just go with it and never learn. Good lesson there fella, nice to see

Well I’m almost 37, so I’m far from a kid. And like most people my age, Mike is the reason I’m a fight fan. That said, I’m a fight fan first. And Mike’s resume isn’t that impressive when you look at it as a whole. And not just the highlight reel.