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  • Bronx2245
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    #191
    Originally posted by hitking
    I was there. Mike’s the reason I’m a fight fan. I know how big a star he was. I’m not denying his star power. I’m denying his greatness as a fighter. I’ve had the Tyson debate hundreds of times. I don’t understand how people kinda dismiss his failures as things that had almost nothing to do with boxing. He didn’t lose to Douglas because of Robin Givens or any of that other nonsense. He lost because he couldn’t figure out the jab, jab, half a step back straight right hand combo Douglas hit him with throughout the fight. People say prison ruined him. I don’t know what prison does to an athlete. I’ve been for a couple years. And it did my body wonders. I know people that have been to prison for several years, and they look about ten years younger than most people their age. My two cents is that most folks can’t sustain the bad habits in there like they can on the outside. The drugs and everything else are too expensive. Obviously for someone like Mike, he could afford to maintain his vices a little better than most while incarcerated. Even at that, I don’t think that gives him a free pass on not being competitive with the best of his era when he fought them.
    I love Mike for his honesty and self-deprication! I remember him saying that "If someone saw my hotel suite in Japan before the Douglas fight, they would've thought they were in a scene from Caligula! I was eating those Japanese women like g****s!" That's the **** i'm talking about, not Robin Givens! I'm not praising him for his whole career. I'm talking about what that man did from the time he failed to make the Olympic team, until the Douglas fight! Mike was only 24 when he lost to Douglas! That was an amazing run!

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    • Deont
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      #192
      Loma's real good but we have seen "real good" many times.
      Time will tell.

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      • eco1
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        #193
        Originally posted by Butch.McRae
        You mean he beat Castillo with an injured shoulder, and then went on to rematch him immediately and completely shut him down? Lol

        Cherrypick the guy you "lost" to in your next fight? Come on buddy lol

        Loma actually lost to Salido. We're still waiting on that rematch.

        Love Loma but you guys have to live in reality.
        he lost the first fight to Castillo.
        He only fought guys over the hill and took any possible advantage he could.

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        • Leonbus2
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          #194
          Originally posted by BoZz
          Now my friend it's time to take your fan boy glasses off and see things for what they are, beating nobodies doesn't make you great...he's an alright boxer but no where near what you people make him out to be.

          Have a nice day too homie
          Homie da clown.

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          • KiloTeague
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            #195
            This is the most overrated boxer of my lifetime.

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            • KiloTeague
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              #196
              Originally posted by hitking
              LMAO at Lomachencko fanboy logic.

              Chico having a tough, close fight before stopping an undefeated world champion is worthy of criticism.

              Lomachencko having a tough, close fight. And being put on his ass by a cat that three C level bums have KO’d is circle jerk worthy.
              At the end of the day this. I’m gonna have a hard time excusing anybody that’s watched more than 7 years of boxing, who thinks Loma is an all-time great.

              Loma would get anniahlated by a prime Sugar Shane Mosley.

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              • KiloTeague
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                #197
                And anniahlated is probably to strong a word. He would take severe punishment in a lopside affair.

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                • aztec_warriors
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                  #198
                  Dumbazzez

                  here’s the difference between LOMA and FLOYD when it comes to weight divisions.

                  LOMA moved up because no one wanted to get it. He could of stayed put, but decided to take risks.

                  FLOYD moved up cuz he had no choice. outgrew the divisions and cherry picked all the way up. period
                  Last edited by aztec_warriors; 05-14-2018, 08:39 PM.

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by sammybee
                    Because currently, Mikey is the only lightweight boxer who has won titles in four weight division, undefeated and significantly has a win over Salido who beat Loma.
                    List who he beat for those titles then. Not sure why its so hard.

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      Lomachencko getting dropped didn’t really bother me. It happens. The thing that took me by surprise is him being hit with combinations. The mark of a great defensive fighter is the ability to not be hit by more than one shot at a time. And to not be continual hit by the same shot multiple times. And both happen to him this past Sat night. Which kinda exposed what I’ve been saying. He’s a flashy defensive fighter. But he’s not an elite defensive fighter.
                      The fact that he got dropped didn't bother me either. It was the shot that dropped him. It was a straight right hand. It's supposed to be the main weapon against a southpaw. An elite level fighter should be thoroughly prepared for that. It was a text book straight right. Linares didn't try it much before but he was catching him mainly with right hand punches so you would think Lomachenko would've expected that punch. The whole fight was eye opening to me. Lomachenko went into a shell for like 2 and half rounds after the KD. I still think Lomachenko is a special talent. However there are definitely some defensive holes that a better fighter than Linares can expose.

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