Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua Wants Wilder - But He Wants The Fight in The UK

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  • Scopedog
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    #61
    Originally posted by EnglishOxide
    AJ is the champ, Wilder needs to travel. End of story.
    Wilder was a champion before AJ.

    Honestly, I don't think this is too unreasonable from Hearn, so long as he realises that he's not going to get his 50 million that way. I just hope that this doesn't mean that the negotiations are going to be put back to square 1. About a week or so ago it looked like there was some progress being made.

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    • Redgloveman
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      #62
      Originally posted by New England
      they agree to terms, and then they hash out contracts line by line!

      they weren't expected to sign a blank contract. that's the firs tthing you put in the contract; that you need to see when and how payments will be made. so come back and put it in there and see what they ahve to say!


      just trust me wen i say this stuff is nothing new to me, i ahve two separate attorneys reviewing two contracts for my businesses as we speak, in two different countries and two completely different industries. one of my attorneys is chair at the one of the very best law firms in boston. i also have a background in boxing. this is not new to me.
      Yes, but Hearn agreed to the price by saying that he was interested and requesting a meeting. But he was told that this wasn't enough and the meeting was cancelled.

      That's pretty much the main reason why I think that Wilder's side intend to delay this fight.

      When it comes to backgrounds, believe me when I say I know how contract law works as well.

      Hearn gave an agreement in principle, he just wasn't interested in giving an assurance that he was willing to be contractually bound to a contract which he wasn't privy to.

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      • Redgloveman
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        #63
        Originally posted by Redgloveman
        Hearn gave an agreement in principle, he just wasn't interested in giving an assurance that he was willing to be contractually bound to a contract which he wasn't privy to.
        And I wouldn't get involved in such a contract either, nor would I advise anyone to enter into such a contract. Even when (In fact especially when) it seems too good to be true

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        • IMDAZED
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          #64
          Originally posted by Redgloveman
          Yes, but Hearn agreed to the price by saying that he was interested and requesting a meeting. But he was told that this wasn't enough and the meeting was cancelled.

          That's pretty much the main reason why I think that Wilder's side intend to delay this fight.

          When it comes to backgrounds, believe me when I say I know how contract law works as well.

          Hearn gave an agreement in principle, he just wasn't interested in giving an assurance that he was willing to be contractually bound to a contract which he wasn't privy to.
          They have been negotiating for a while now and Hearn said he is very interested in the offer.

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          • Butch.McRae
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            #65
            Originally posted by Redgloveman
            That's cool, but you'll appreciate that I'm not going to change my mind until I actually see some evidence. And if you're not going to find it then I'm not going to search and nor am I gonna take your word that it exists.

            If I come across it or anything like it though then I'll change tack in a heartbeat.
            You guys are a strange bunch lol It's really not that hard to see that Showtime/MGM/Haymon can guarantee 50 million. (Which has been acknowledged by Eddie and the old man)

            Not sure what the point of denying that is. Maybe its b/c a lot of you spent about a week on here arguing against something that was obvious lol Idk, whatever makes you feel better I guess

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              #66
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Looks like they can’t pay him much more than $12.5m if the fight is in the UK, not without cutting into Joshua’s slice.

              I watched this interview on video and I thought Hearn’s comments were real telling. Sounds like the offer they got was good, but Joshua is the hold up. He wants the fight in the UK, but it doesn’t make any sense.
              Would be interesting if true. I get the impression that Joshua is the Canelo/Pac type just following the guidance of his promoter. But, who knows. Everyone here likes to think they have it all figured out but I'll be the first to say that I (or we) really have very little clue.
              Interesting what you took from that interview though. I'm eager to see how this plays out.

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              • Redgloveman
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                #67
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                They have been negotiating for a while now and Hearn said he is very interested in the offer.
                He said that immediately when the offer was made. The deal hasn't moved any closer and I think cancelling meetings and saying "we're not willing to talk until you take the offer which you're not privy to" is a big part of why.

                I just don't think either side wants the fight yet - but you can't say that the offer was real unless you actually have some kind of proof, which would be extremely easy to provide if it was real. Just put the money in escrow and get the fight made.

                It's that simple

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #68
                  Wilder: "I'll come to your backyard, baby!!!"

                  -Still hasn't fought outside of the U.S. even when offered multiple times the amount of money of his highest paycheck.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    It's pretty simple. If someone offers you 6x you've ever made you take it, you don't turn it down to carry on making 6x less.

                    I know you like to think yourself as an adult but with a reach as big as a toddlers i wouldn't class you as one.
                    Well, in all fairness to Wilder - that 6X or more - could be his last payday ever after he's brutally KO'd. He might want to pick up a few more little checks before cashing out.

                    Wilder is clearly afraid to fight outside of the US because he needs the ref to help him recover whenever he gets rocked and he probably won't have that advantage without corrupt Vegas or NY.

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                    • Redgloveman
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                      You guys are a strange bunch lol It's really not that hard to see that Showtime/MGM/Haymon can guarantee 50 million. (Which has been acknowledged by Eddie and the old man)

                      Not sure what the point of denying that is. Maybe its b/c a lot of you spent about a week on here arguing against something that was obvious lol Idk, whatever makes you feel better I guess
                      The **** you talking about "you guys". Unlike some I actually make up my own mind about **** on a case-by-case basis.

                      Frankly, as someone who claims to be a high-flying lawyer, I'm amazed that you would lack the common-ass-business sense to realise that you don't sign something unless you have seen exactly what the terms are and know that what is promised under the contract can actually be delivered - because to be honest you should have been sued for negligence and fired by now.

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