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  • New England
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    #51
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    Problem is that Parker got a 30 to 35% split (interestingly enough, after Hearn swore he would not pay him that much). From a business perspective, you can't expect someone who has far more commercial value to take less. Some of these Hearn goons have tried to argue that with me but there is no conceivable way that a Wilder fight is worth the same as a Parker fight. Even Hearn has said this. So, 35 is honestly the minimum starting point. I wouldn't offer Wilder more than 40 though, and Wilder certainly doesn't expect more than 40, based on the more candid things I've seen him say.


    35% and a guarantee gets this fight made. wilder doesn't need to be greedy, he's going to make a ton of money.


    parker got 33%. equaled damn near the 8.9M pound sterling offer that wilder got. parker's team claim he made much more.

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    • Redgloveman
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      #52
      Originally posted by New England
      showtime has said they are apart of this deal, wilder is promoted by al haytmon, who had an endowment of close to half a billion dollars. vegas will put up a site fee, too.


      they have the money, the relationships are already in place between the network, venue, and the promoter.
      Again, no offence, but this is the argument I see a lot but I just don't go along with it.

      Huge business deals are made every day. I don't think the parties involved ever just say "well I'm dealing with Jeff Bezos here, he's good for the money, I'll just sign the contract without any proof that he's actually willing to put the money aside"

      People like that don't last in business, because they don't belong in business. You don't sign **** until you know you can get your hands on the money.

      It's also very unlikely that you'd enter into a contract without knowing what you're entering into

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        #53
        Originally posted by NEETzsche
        I agree they're delaying it, I just want it to be in the UK when it does happen. I think they want one interim fight and then the negotiations with Wilder will get serious

        growing up, i see


        tell your little friend robbie to be a big boy and sack up.

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          #54
          Originally posted by New England
          dude it was a flat fee and a low ball. i understand that you don't understand, or wouldn't care because deontay is american and your guy is british, but adults are talking.
          It's pretty simple. If someone offers you 6x you've ever made you take it, you don't turn it down to carry on making 6x less.

          I know you like to think yourself as an adult but with a reach as big as a toddlers i wouldn't class you as one.

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            #55
            You can't dictate terms if you aren't putting up the lions share of the money, point blank period. You want it in the UK. Pay up!

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              #56
              Originally posted by Redgloveman
              Again, no offence, but this is the argument I see a lot but I just don't go along with it.

              Huge business deals are made every day. I don't think the parties involved ever just say "well I'm dealing with Jeff Bezos here, he's good for the money, I'll just sign the contract without any proof that he's actually willing to put the money aside"

              People like that don't last in business, because they don't belong in business. You don't sign **** until you know you can get your hands on the money.

              It's also very unlikely that you'd enter into a contract without knowing what you're entering into

              they agree to terms, and then they hash out contracts line by line!

              they weren't expected to sign a blank contract. that's the firs tthing you put in the contract; that you need to see when and how payments will be made. so come back and put it in there and see what they ahve to say!


              just trust me wen i say this stuff is nothing new to me, i ahve two separate attorneys reviewing two contracts for my businesses as we speak, in two different countries and two completely different industries. one of my attorneys is chair at the one of the very best law firms in boston. i also have a background in boxing. this is not new to me.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                Is there any evidence that it didn't exist? Did Hearn present any evidence to Finkel that money was available when he presented his offer? NO! Why? It's because promoters have never "presented evidence," they present offers, and Finkel has been doing this way longer than Hearn! Hearn is trying to look for a reason to say NO! Now the latest is Joshua doesn't want to fight in the U.S.! PATHETIC!
                There's no evidence that a giant blue anus called Jemima isn't in fact the supreme being that orders all life doesn't exist... Can you see the problem with the argument that an absence of negative evidence suggests that something is real creates?

                Finkel didn't ask to see any money, he rejected the deal out of hand. Had he asked, Hearn has stated that the money would have been in his bank account that same night.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                  You can't dictate terms if you aren't putting up the lions share of the money, point blank period. You want it in the UK. Pay up!
                  You can't dictate terms when you aren't the ****ing draw. Joshua is the draw and holds 3 of the 4 belts. Bird legs plays by Joshua's rules or not at all, Wilder needs Joshua far more than Joshua needs him.

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                    #59
                    ... "the money is in America"...
                    Yes -- but Joshua isn't there... (make any other fight in America and see what money are there)...

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                      #60
                      Wilder has said before that he has no problem with traveling. Shouldn't be a problem. 50 mil plus home court....if that isn't enough for AJ's side then they should just openly admit that they aren't ready for it yet and move on.

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