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  • Boksfan
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    #51
    So we won't see this fight because Wilder is greedy? Never enough money for you Deontay is it?

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    • lfc19titles
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      #52
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Why sit down if there isn't even an agreement on the outlines of the deal? That'd be a waste of time.

      No one here is actually involved in the deal, but the outline seems to be $50m or 50% of the take on the fight (whichever is greater), for a fight later this year, with Team Wilder picking the location.

      If Joshua/Hearn agree that that is a deal that they want, then the details can get filled in (which dates make sense for Showtime to stage the PPV, what venues line up with the dates that Showtime can offer, how those dates line up with Sky Box Office, what the event sponsors look like, etc).

      Dez Bryant, formerly of the Dallas Cowboys, is looking for a particular deal. Every team in the NFL is free to call his representation, but he and his camp aren't sitting down with anyone unless the deal he wants is agreed to. Once the basic deal is done, the details can get worked out (guaranteed money, roster/production bonuses, injury offsets, player/team options, etc).

      Eddie Hearn's initial offer to Wilder's camp was for $12.5m. Eddie didn't give any details beyond that, and Wilder's camp didn't ask for any, because it was Eddie's burden to profer that money, and if the signed deal wasn't fulfilled, Team Wilder would be well within their legal right to sue Matchroom Sport for every penny of the money owed to them, regardless of what that meant for Matchroom (no idea what type of money that Matchroom earns every year, but there could basically be a lien against the company's assets/revenues until the money is recouped).

      Team Wilder clearly didn't like the offer, so they made a counteroffer; $50m as Joshua's guarantee with upside on the event. If that is an offer that Joshua likes and Hearn agrees to, you fill in the details at a meeting.

      What are you wilder fans blabbering in about ? Imbeciles

      Look, wilder sends an email saying have 50m

      Hearn and Joshua respond saying ok if that’s true let’s roll, let’s meet for the finer details and also look at getting the fight on paper

      You have no idea if it’s team wilder pickingbe location, nobody does, That’s what Hearn wants to find out Jesus!!!!!

      Yet team wilder keep on refusing to meet to make the fight

      Team Wilde also refuse to engage apart from social media posts to trick idiots

      Hearn even went to America and wilder team again went to social
      Media saying they refuse to meet Hearn

      A fight is made with two parties sitting down and thrashing out a deal for all points

      Look at what you posted, it’s rubbish, you are so biased that logic has left your brain, you can’t make a fight without a contract with all the details on the table

      It’s never happened before and won’t happen now

      Eddie indeed did make an offer- team wilder didn’t respond, Eddie again tried to meet them but they didn’t respond

      Team wilder made an offer and gave 24 hours yes 24 hours for it- what does that tell you ? It’s a media blufff to save face whilst reports are coming out wilder is fighting an aj left over. What does Hearn do ? He says let’s meet and make the fight then

      See the different between wilder who don’t want t he fight and and Team Joshua who do

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        #53
        Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
        So what their supposed to meet every time someone makes a counter offer too? This ain’t the freakin 70’s. Just FaceTime and get it done.
        Bytch you must be the biggest ****** around, cong****

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          #54
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          What do you know? The 12.5m offer turns out to be nonsense.

          Hearn will need to come up with a far better offer if he wants to keep control of the promotion. Only two other options. Haymon/Showtime control the promotion or no fight at all
          How is the fight going to get made with wilder refusing to even talk to get it made apart from random social media posts ? Lol

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            #55
            Originally posted by Boksfan
            So we won't see this fight because Wilder is greedy? Never enough money for you Deontay is it?
            Wilder doesnt want Joshua making that amount of money off him .


            What the idiot doesn't understand is Joshua can generate 20 Million dollar fights while he has barely broke 2 Million in ONE fight so far .


            He actually thinks hes hurting Joshua by holding out ?


            He can fool his dumbed down fanbase but the real boxing fans want to see this fight and HES the one who is cheating them !

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              #56
              Originally posted by Scipio2009

              Team Wilder clearly didn't like the offer, so they made a counteroffer; $50m as Joshua's guarantee with upside on the event. If that is an offer that Joshua likes and Hearn agrees to, you fill in the details at a meeting.

              Except they couldn't because Finkel cancelled 2 meetings.

              AJ said 'lets roll'.
              Hearn said 'OK we are very interested if terms are right'.

              Why does Finkel need more than that to attend a meeting and talking about the deal?

              He doesn't have to disclose details he doesn't want to in that meeting.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                The venue is obviously T-Mobile Arena. Hearn knows that. The date would be mutually agreed upon by both parties to maximize PPV buys. These excuses make no sense.




                More nonsense. It's obviously not going to be in England. They're not going to overpay AJ just to bring the fight to AJ's home. Even Hearn has admitted the fight would make more in Vegas and obviously part of the motivation for overspending on the fight is to maximize Wilder's chances of winning.

                There's no rematch. Hearn knows that. That was clearly specified in the offer.

                AJ's existing sponsorships and how to navigate that would be mutually agreed upon in negotiations. That doesn't stop Hearn from saying, "we agree in principle on 50 million, depending on the other details obviously, so let's start negotiating the other details."




                No, they look like schmucks now refusing to accept the amount, 50 million, they specifically requested.

                If they really want the fight, it'll get done. Haymon's not going to blow the deal over the color of the ring posts or which energy drink sponsors the fight. Hearn is just making excuses. None of this makes sense.
                Originally posted by BodiesInFlight
                You're really earning that $10 a day man.
                I wouldn't pay him $10 for rubbish like that. But I guess it will work with the fools he's aiming it at.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                  So what their supposed to meet every time someone makes a counter offer too? This ain’t the freakin 70’s. Just FaceTime and get it done.
                  Yea thats how business works !


                  You CANT make a fight without verbal interaction with paper work needed to go over !

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                  • kafkod
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    1. Yes you can. Finkel did it. Hearn did it. DLH did it. Most promoters do it. No one sends receipts with offers. Stop making **** up.

                    2. Of course they need Joshuas name attached to get the money dummy, the money is for Joshua vs Wilder not for saving the whales.

                    Hearn just told YOU why he doesn't want to accept without details. Not because he CAN'T like your ignorant azz keeps saying, but because he doesn't want to look like a schmuck if he feels he has to back out during negotiations. The mf you've been defending for weeks shut you down .
                    And no-one refuses to meet with the other side to discuss the offer either - unless they are trying to make sure the fight doesn't get made.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BreakingBox
                      I can’t believe that you could honestly think that Wilder would make less money with his offer vs Hearns offer. Haymon could possibly lose money, but Wilder would never agree to sending out an offer where he would be guaranteed less money than Hearns guaranteed 12.5 million. You think that Wilders team is a bunch of morons. You highly underestimate the intelligence of Wilders team. It’s advised by Al Haymon, which is a Harvard graduate. We only see what they want us to see. The majority of these negotiations are behind closed doors. So, unless you are a part of the negotiations, or have inside information, then all you have is an opinion.
                      Wilder cant make over 12 Million unless the fight is a guaranteed 60 PLUS Million dollar fight bc they have other expenses then giving Joshua 50 Million .

                      Wilder would make 35 Million with Hearns deal ....


                      You're to much of a ****** to comprehend this !
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-02-2018, 06:22 AM.

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