GGG~vs~Hopkins; Who's Run at 160 More Impressive?

[aboutfkntime]

i will always catch you guys out when you flip-flop lol

[BlackSoul]

haha let me screenshot those who voted for ggg
hahaha helllllllllll naw
ggg over Bernard The EXECUTIONER Hopkins
haha remember kids this wasnt the "alien" B Hop
this was the RULER of the MIDDLEWEIGHT division for over a DECADE and THEN jumped up and beat the LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT Lineal Title Holder in Antonio Tarver.
mane gtfoh ggg is AVERAGE at best & thats being fair

[aboutfkntime]

At Middleweight if he fought Jacobs he would lose. No doubt in my mind. Danny is too big for Tito..

but..... he is " chinny "

and, while " not being a bum ", Jacobs is not great, like Trinidad was





you have no idea dude

Trinidad stopped middleweights before/after Hopkins beat him..... I think Danny could have ended up on that list

[TonyGe]

you are attempting to argue..... that Golovkin's best opponent, could beat Hopkin's best opponent..... therefore making Golovkin's best-win, better than Hopkins best-win..... which is not only WORSE than a triangle-theory, it is flawed logic at best

dude, Trinidad..... was a GREAT fighter





this is the only fact that matters.....

historically, Trinidad > Jacobs..... /story

Trinidad was great, AND he was the favorite..... Jacobs, was neither of those things

that stuff you made up was not facts, it was opinion..... and yea, I highly doubt that Jacobs could beat Trinidad based on his last two performances

1) how many right hands did Sulecki land on Jacobs ?

2) can I search your post-history (and I am an expert lol) and find you making references to Danny Jacobs having a glass-jaw?

So your saying a guy that Hopkins thoroughly outboxed and stopped was his best opponent? So I guess your saying that Trinidad was better than Roy Jones because that's what it sounds like. If Trinidad according to you is better than Jones shouldn't have Hopkins beat Jones. Or are you using the Triangle theory here.

[TonyGe]

but..... he is " chinny "

and, while " not being a bum ", Jacobs is not great, like Trinidad was





you have no idea dude

Trinidad stopped middleweights before/after Hopkins beat him..... I think Danny could have ended up on that list

Ok tell me that Trinidad had a great chin. I need a good laugh..

[buge]

Hopkins fought a bunch of old no-names and blown-up welterweights. GGG's competition isn't the greatest but it's better than Hopkins'.

Anyone claiming Hopkins' opponents are better can only be going by a P4P test, which is ridiculous. That's like saying if only GGG had fought Chocolatito instead of having him on the undercard, he'd have a P4P win. Jacobs and Canelo beat anyone on Hopkins' list at the time he fought them.

[Scopedog]

The thing that makes the difference for me is that with the possible exception of the Canelo fight Golovkin has been a heavy favourite to win in all of his fights. On the other hand, Hopkins against Trinidad and also De La Hoya to a degree was expected to lose and turned in a great performance to defend his title against the odds. The Trinidad fight in particular was just an incredible career performance, that's one of my favourite fights to rewatch because I think it's a virtuoso performance on almost every level from skill to smarts and guts from Hopkins and he did it against the odds. Golovkin doesn't have anything like that, his fights are almost all one-sided maulings against underpowered opponents. Take the Trinidad fight away and it's probably more debatable but with it there's no question in my eyes.

[Illmatic94]

Based on the general reaction Bhop's win over Tito gives him the clear edge. And that's because Bernard was a huge underdog so it makes sense.. But against who would GGG be an underdog against at 160? I can't think of anybody. It sucks guys like Sturm and Sergio never faced him. Those would've been his two potential signature wins.

[buge]

The thing that makes the difference for me is that with the possible exception of the Canelo fight Golovkin has been a heavy favourite to win in all of his fights. On the other hand, Hopkins against Trinidad and also De La Hoya to a degree was expected to lose and turned in a great performance to defend his title against the odds.

Why should that matter? That just means GGG was more highly rated relative to the contenders. It doesn't mean the contenders were worse.

Compare the contenders against each other. Who on Hopkins' list beats Canelo or Jacobs?

[DreamFighter]

Why should that matter? That just means GGG was more highly rated relative to the contenders. It doesn't mean the contenders were worse.

Compare the contenders against each other. Who on Hopkins' list beats Canelo or Jacobs?

you mean who beats Jacobs.

plenty would - Echols, Taylor, Trinidad, Holmes, Johnson. There are others.

Jacobs is a good cotender, nothing more, yet.