Comments Thread For: Hearn To Team Wilder: Is a Contract & Meeting Too Much To Ask?

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  • Redgloveman
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    #131
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    remember how hearn barred wilder from the ring? then when wilder decided he wouldnt show up cause of it hearn ran his mouth "where is wilder where are you"?
    I hope you don't get the opinion that I have something personal against you, man. But even that I disagree with.

    Hearn and Joshua said "Wilder doesn't dictate to me whether he gets into the ring, I invite him into the ring." It's a bit of a power-play, if the roles were reversed, do you really think you'd complain if Wilder said that to Joshua if Joshua said "I'm gonna jump in the ring and get in his face after the fight".

    Nonetheless Wilder was still invited to co-commentate on the event which he turned down. Even that was a PR blunder. If he had gone and tried to get in the ring and been denied he could have come out in the media and exposed it - but he didn't even show up. The way it transpired he gave Hearn the chance to say "we would have invited him into the ring but he wasn't there" - Hearn subsequently did this.

    I like Wilder, and I think he wins that fight, but his handlers have advised him badly throughout this saga, and they're making it easy for a snake like Hearn to capitalise.

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #132
      Originally posted by Redgloveman
      As for the quote, I did say that I thought "from memory" that you had said it yourself. Apologies if you didn't, but I was just putting across what the majority of Wilder-side posters were saying. I think the way I put it demonstrates that I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.

      But the point stands, you can't really force Hearn to accept legal responsibility for a deal which he isn't privy to - nor can you claim that he has shown an unwillingness to negotiate.

      I actually think that Wilder's side don't want the fight yet and they've made a mistake here. I don't think Hearn wants the fight yet either, but he's going to make the most of this opportunity to capitalise on what amounts to a PR blunder.

      I favour Wilder in the fight (which is all that really matters), but his handlers are not doing a good job at the moment. As much as I don't like the guy, Hearn is winning the PR war
      There is ZERO legal responsibility accepted when you say "I agree to the proposed money split and letting you pick the location. All other terms are subject to negotiation."

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      • Ake-Dawg
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        #133
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        these guy will never admit it...but clearly they can see it too

        hearn wants no parts of letting wilders people have control...in fact it probably eats at him just the thought of it

        he got his card pulled

        the guy made joke offers in public that the media called a joke...then the other side came back with the figure joshua himself said hed gladly take...now hes squirming even more and rambling

        remember how hearn barred wilder from the ring? then when wilder decided he wouldnt show up cause of it hearn ran his mouth "where is wilder where are you"?

        this is no different.....hearn got the figure he wanted and wont agree in principle but now hes crying because they wont meet with him
        I really think it's the control thing. He is not used to being in that position. All the talk of how AJ dictates this and that. AJ said let's roll, meaning he is ready because for him, he believes he wins and gets a big bag and US market exposure. Hearn doesn't see it that way. He is thinking like a manager and weighing the risks.

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        • Holler
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          #134
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          So saying let's agree to the money split and letting us control location before we sit down is an egregious precondition?

          Is agreeing to co-promote or not an egregious precondition? I ask because in boxing flat fees and purse guarantees generally mean NO co-promotion.
          No. It has an obvious negative financial consideration but it doesn't trigger the same kind of concerns a blanket yes to Finkel's pre condition would.

          That said, If I were in that position I may object to the notion of such a pre condition to talks on either case.

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          • Patsfan bri
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            #135
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            The clip Wilder put in his tweet of the offer shows Joshua asking for 50 mil UPFRONT.


            you won’t answer the question, have you ever heard of it ??? Has it ever happened before ?!

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #136
              Originally posted by Patsfan bri
              you won’t answer the question, have you ever heard of it ??? Has it ever happened before ?!
              Have you ever heard of someone wanting a fight but then refusing to meet or send a contract?

              Plenty of people have the money waiting for them. Every purse bid has guaranteed money that is paid straight out to them. Mayweather got a 100 mil check straight after the Pacquiao fight. He didn't have to wait for it.

              A guarantee is exactly that. The money is there waiting to be paid no matter what.
              Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 04-28-2018, 08:35 AM.

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              • TexasCowBoy
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                #137
                Originally posted by Jubei
                Reading through the comments here is just pathetic. People actually defend Wilder and his team, Hearn and AJ want to have a meeting and negotiate the fight but apparently they are the bad guys. Wow this ******ity is unbearable. This forum totally turned into a total shithole, the dontae boxing comment section of manipulated racists. A circlejerk for degenerates, trolls full of hypocrisy and bias. Racism is also a big part of that..

                Some of you cant be helped, probably totally uneducated and just following orders what your racist gods Dontae, Egoboxing, Barbershop, 78, and Team Wilder etc tell you. Some others here actually have some common sense but they are so full of bias and hatred they happily tag along and play dumb as well. You know who you are.. sad sad people.
                Right on....but I like racism....this is the only sport where you can cheer for your kind....aj or deontayduckus wilderquackus are not my kind so I can easily see things without bias and I got AJ winning this fight by K.O. ......believe me the majority at Nascar know that deontayduckus wilderquackus is a pretender

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                • Patsfan bri
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  The clip Wilder put in his tweet of the offer shows Joshua asking for 50 mil UPFRONT.


                  these clips are edited, we don’t know what sequence and how it went down, but I do know AJ asking for money upfront when it has never ever been done before in the history of prize fighting is him saying no thank you. 😄

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Patsfan bri
                    these clips are edited, we don’t know what sequence and how it went down, but I do know AJ asking for money upfront when it has never ever been done before in the history of prize fighting is him saying no thank you. 😄
                    The majority of fights have money waiting in an account for the fighters. You don't know **** about boxing.

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                    • Patsfan bri
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Have you ever heard of someone wanting a fight but then refusing to meet or send a contract?

                      Plenty of people have the money waiting for them. Every purse bid has guaranteed money that is paid straight out to them. Mayweather got a 100 mil check straight after the Pacquiao fight. He didn't have to wait for it.

                      A guarantee is exactly that. The money is there waiting to be paid no matter what.
                      we just have a different opinion. Mayweather got paid after the fight per your own words , not upfront. All fighters have money waiting for them after the fight but no one has it upfront in any form. It’s all good man. I’m not here to argue with anyone. I’m a boxing fan and want to share my opinion and thoughts and want hear those of others.

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