Comments Thread For: Hearn To Team Wilder: Is a Contract & Meeting Too Much To Ask?

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  • Butch.McRae
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    #31
    Another pointless write-up about Eddie. He's trying his best to become a big deal in the US lol

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    • Ray*
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      #32
      Of course people saw through the BS, why would anyone not want to sit and talk about a 50m dollars deal? Unless you have something to hide and you are playing games.

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      • EnglishOxide
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        #33
        Originally posted by sotgoda
        Pathetic Eddie making excuses again. About 2 - 3 weeks ago, he sent Wilder an offer (NOT a contract) of $12.5 million - take it or leave it, no % split of the revenue. The delusional AJ protectors said Wilder should just take it despite the fact that it was an OFFER, not a CONTRACT. There was no mention of date, venue, etc.

        No one asked where the money is coming from, if the money is in escrow, whether it was upfront or not. No one of the AJ protectors asked where the contract is. Pathological liar Eddie kept saying Wilder is afraid, does not want to take the fight, is using AJ's name and this is more than 6 times what he has ever made.

        Fast forward to 2 - 3 weeks after, when A juicing J said that if Wilder's team think it is worth $100 mil, he is happy to take $50 million dollars. Wilder's team took their time and came up with the offer. The only ask from disgraceful liar Eddie and A ducking J is to answer an elementary question with a YES or NO. Very basic stuff - "I accept the offer - when can we meet?". This is not "I ACCEPT THE CONTRACT" but "I ACCEPT THE OFFER."

        Instead, innate liar Eddie has a litany of excuses. Examples include:

        "I want to see the contract;

        How can an Alabama boy send me an email? (This is despite Shelly confirming that Wilder's email was as a result of the team's decision. Wilder also sent the email because Eddie always lies about not getting an email or not knowing who to go to - which is why Wilder sent it to 3 of them so that no one misses it).

        Other excuses are:

        How do I know if they have the money?

        How do I know if the offer is real without a contract? (This is the same Pharisee who did not send a contract to Wilder's team by the way. )

        Where did they get the money from?

        Is the money available now or is it something they are going to go look for?

        Even if the money is available, we would still like to stage it in the UK because of what we have built, etc.

        How about this disgraceful human being look in the mirror for once? Did he ask himself the same questions when he sent his pathetic and disrespectful offer 2 - 3 weeks ago? Who is more credible in the industry - Eddie Hearn or Al Haymon? I think even a fool knows that Al Haymon's team is the more credible one.

        It is disgraceful folks like Eddie that give boxing a bad name and take away from what the fan wants. Shame!

        There are major differences which you are ignoring here.

        1. The fight was going to be at Wembley in September. Wilder never asked for a contract, he never even replied even though Eddie put a 10 day expiration on the offer. Eddie asked for details of the 50m offer the same day. It was an opening offer, he expected negotiation.

        2. Nobody asked to see proof of the 12.5m because nobody got back to Eddie. Everybody knows Joshua fights make enough to pay that money. Everybody knows Wilder fights don't generate enough to pay a man a guaranteed 50m. That's why they want proof of funds.

        3. It is quite normal to ask for details before agreeing to ANYTHING. If they agree to the money and disagree to everything else because it might be completely unreasonable or unrealistic then Team Wilder have another PR play. In any case, Hearn and AJ have already indicated they are happy with the amount of money. That's already in the public domain.

        The simple fact is that there are more factors at play than the money, that's how it is and that's how it's always been. That's why Hearn has attempted to get on the same page as Team Wilder by having meetings but they don't want it.

        What exactly are they protecting? Their business model? It's no secret how they generate money for big fights.

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        • jonnyc420
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          #34
          Originally posted by McNulty
          Finkel and Haymon are the professionals here. Eddie is just a young guy who got his start from his dad, Barry. Even Barry is siding with Finkel. Do you even know who Finkel is? He's a legend in the game lmao.
          So if they are so professional where is the contract? Shelly Finkel? I am somewhat fimiliar. I tend to follow actual boxers more than anything. What does this matter though? Still no contract. This is the most unprofessional thing I have read when it comes to making a fight happen. Wilder comes off looking like a bit of a joke at this point lol.

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          • masterminding
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            #35
            Originally posted by Scary_canary
            I gotta say I don’t really no what to think anymore... I think I’m sidin with Hearn here... I was so happy. The other day i thought wilder called out Joshua on his $50 million comment, but it does seem dodgy af now...the way Shelly said there’s no point meeting? Wtf is that about
            I'm kinda leaning this way.

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            • petegrif
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              #36
              Grow up guys.

              An "offer" isn't your fighter posting a big number on social media.

              An offer has terms

              An offer is something you get to discuss.

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              • McNulty
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                #37
                Originally posted by jonnyc420
                So if they are so professional where is the contract? Shelly Finkel? I am somewhat fimiliar. I tend to follow actual boxers more than anything. What does this matter though? Still no contract. This is the most unprofessional thing I have read when it comes to making a fight happen. Wilder comes off looking like a bit of a joke at this point lol.
                Thats not how it works, offers are made, agreed upon and then the contract gets drawn up.

                Hearn did the same thing. He made a take it or leave it OFFER to Wilder for 12.5M. There was no contract. Agree, then we have a sit down and figure out who gets what.

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                • redmish
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                  #38
                  Wilder and his team are a joke. It looks like he's fighting Breazeale next so where did all this come from? A $50 million offer is great, but, no date, no venue, no meeting and no contract. You can't make a fight this big acting like this. Wilder needs a new team who give him better advice.

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                  • EnglishOxide
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by McNulty
                    Hearn did the same thing. He made a take it or leave it OFFER to Wilder for 12.5M. There was no contract. Agree, then we have a sit down and figure out who gets what.

                    No ******.

                    If Wilder wanted a meeting and wanted to look at terms for 12.5m before agreeing to the money he would have got it. That's how business is done.

                    You know, talking?

                    Wilder doesn't want to talk right now because he can't back that 50m up without using AJs name.

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                    • jonnyc420
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by McNulty
                      Thats not how it works, offers are made, agreed upon and then the contract gets drawn up.

                      Hearn did the same thing. He made a take it or leave it OFFER to Wilder for 12.5M. There was no contract. Agree, then we have a sit down and figure out who gets what.
                      Was gonna school you but I think Mr. OXIDE did a good enough job at that. Take care clown keep buying those Haymon lies sooner or later you will wise up. I hope anyway.

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