Comments Thread For: Hearn To Team Wilder: Is a Contract & Meeting Too Much To Ask?

[Ake-Dawg]

He can't Curt, he literally cannot agree in the way you suggest without access to further info.

The solution is for all parties to meet and thrash this out. Creating artificial pre-conditions to be satisfied before that happens is not the way to get the fight signed.

Do you remember a while back when Chis Eubank Jr. was supposed to fight GGG. The terms were agreed to, then the contracts were drawn, then Eubank Jr didn't sign because his dad thought he could get more money for his other fighters. That's the worse case in this scenario. They agree, contracts are drawn, there is a conflict, no fight.

Think about this as well, the Takam Joshua contract was drawn out and unsigned while they stood by. Pulev got hurt, they pulled the contract out, signed it and we had a fight. Point is, you can agree to terms and not be contractually bound to fight.

[juggernaut666]

Haha obviously.., but why even
Offer that 50m it’s not a good publicity stunt and Shelly looks dumb af now

To make it look like they are valued at more .


1. If Hearn / Joshua VERBALLY use the words we accept ( Hearn carefully said we are interested which he should do . Hes STILL accepting ) and then they have that meeting .

However Finkel then pulls out the little details ( he refused to disclose ) and no money deal could be made which was the goal to at least stall the fight or make it look like a deal cant be reached but they tried ..

2. Finkel KNOWINGLY demanding Hearn has to agree to anything wont say yes to anything with a 50 Million deal and 24 hr period thrown at him . So Finkel does look good bc he knows the Wilder fanbase in particular is dumb as rocks and will call Hearn and Joshua Duckers .


This entire SCHEME was to build publicity for Wilder which it did .


Finkel looks bad for denying a meeting ( the cancelations will go unoticed to the general public ) BUT he comes out on top because it has generated another negotiation tactic which will force Hearn to up his Wilder offer .


3 . Finkel STATED they are looking at END of year . Theres NO pressure on him because they had a Breazeale fight lined up the entire time .

So by Hearn not being able to negotiate anything he can claim Hearn doesn't want the fight anyway and move on to what was already planned and in the process make Wilder out as if hes being avoided .


4 .

A. Finkel looks dumb IF you have a brain .


B. Finkel looks smart if you have the IQ of a potato chip.



These are the two choices and we know what posters fall into the B category ! The ones siding with A MEETING IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE ........

[Curt Henning]

He can't, nothing to do with the amount, but the legal implications that would ensue. He can't commit with so much left unclear.

Finkel is asking him to do something he would never do himself.

The only way the fight is made, which I assume we all want, is for both parties to sit down and negotiate directly rather than via social media and briefings to journalists.

all he is asking is to agree in principle...and then they can agree to iron out all the details together

did hearn sit down with them when he made a public flat fee offer? nope....he just put it out there...and that was considered a joke

the 50 mil offer is exactly what joshua wanted..once hearn agrees in principle they can sit down and work on all the other stuff....but hearn wont agree to a figure that his guy said he wanted

widers side has the money...all hearn has to do is to say "were ok with that money and wilder pickig the venue"....but he WONT....he keeps backpedaling .....he keeps questioning the money

finkel played hearns own game with him and now eddie is all in an uproar and crying on video to any outlet that will put a camera in front of him

Als money is there and secure...its never not been.....so why is hearn balking at agreeing to 50 mil?

YES hearn absolutely can agree to take 50 mil in a guarantee and he CAN AGREE to let wilder pick the venue......he can do these things even though you insist he cant...its not binding and he doesnt have to sign on it...he has to publicly agree and say "im ready ..lets iron out the rest of the details'

but he WONT

[Holler]

Do you remember a while back when Chis Eubank Jr. was supposed to fight GGG. The terms were agreed to, then the contracts were drawn, then Eubank Jr didn't sign because his dad thought he could get more money for his other fighters. That's the worse case in this scenario

With respect, it's not.

It may be the worst you can anticipate, but that doesn't make it true.

Again, as above, the fight will never happen if one side insists on pre conditions to an actual meeting.

[Curt Henning]

did hearn have a meeting with finkel and company when he offered 12.5 flat fee?

[Redgloveman]

you dont question al haymon......hes a billion dollar dude...

Has Haymon said that he's willing to put the money up personally?... no, the offer didn't even come from him. You don't just assume things when there's this much money involved because you'll end up on your ass.

now he wants professional courtesy?

No, just professional common sense and standard practice. That's not a lot to ask in a $50m deal. They're not trading ****ing pogs here.

....als reputation speaks volumes alone...it dwarfs hearns.......so hearn is out here once again acting unprofessional

Seems like you're swayed more by personality and reputation than by logic or basic business sense.

Let's just be clear. I don't even like Hearn; the guy's a smug ****, if I saw him in the street I wouldn't even stop to slap his ass; but he's just acting like any businessperson would, so I'm not gonna side against him just because I don't like him. I like to think I have basic common sense and don't get caught up in personalities. You don't just take **** on faith in this game, especially when there's this much money at stake. There's enough money to permanently destroy Hearn's business if he makes a wrong move - you think Haymon wouldn't take a chance to screw one of his competitors. No, he's a ruthless b*stard.

Honestly man, if you're this naive you would get eaten alive in their world. "But Haymon's got so much money, I'm sure he's got my best interests at heart"

[Redgloveman]

did hearn have a meeting with finkel and company when he offered 12.5 flat fee?

Did they request one?

[Curt Henning]

Has Haymon said that he's willing to put the money up personally?... no, the offer didn't even come from him. You don't just assume things when there's this much money involved because you'll end up on your ass.



No, just professional common sense and standard practice. That's not a lot to ask in a $50m deal. They're not trading ****ing pogs here.



Seems like you're swayed more by personality and reputation than by logic or basic business sense.

Let's just be clear. I don't even like Hearn; the guy's a smug ****, if I saw him in the street I wouldn't even stop to slap his ass; but he's just acting like any businessperson would, so I'm not gonna side against him just because I don't like him. I like to think I have basic common sense and don't get caught up in personalities. You don't just take **** on faith in this game, especially when there's this much money at stake. There's enough money to permanently destroy Hearn's business if he makes a wrong move - you think Haymon wouldn't take a chance to screw one of his competitors. No, he's a ruthless b*stard.

Honestly man, if you're this naive you would get eaten alive in their world. "But Haymon's got so much money, I'm sure he's got my best interests at heart"

did hearn have a meeting with finkel when he offered 12.5 flat fee?

i think he did not...so what are you guys still crying about? lol...a whole bunch of nonsense

al has the backers, financers and investors.....that cant be questioned....but you, like hearn, are questioning a guy thats touched over a billion

[BodiesInFlight]

did hearn have a meeting with finkel and company when he offered 12.5 flat fee?

Did hearn say they have to accept before talks could happen?

[Curt Henning]

Did they request one?

did hearn request one before or when he made the offer? of course not

did finkel? no why would he request a meeting over a figure the media called an insult and a joke? why would you request a meeting with a guy that showed he wasnt serious with his public, insulting, offer?