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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #141
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    How does Ortiz beating Whyte prove that Wilder wasn't ducking? How does that even work? Haha.

    Madness.
    Because everyone not a Joshua stan or a UK fanatic sees Whyte as a C level fighter. You and others consider Ortiz old slow and not a quality win for Wilder. If he beats Whyte, you have to either credit Ortiz for being top level or admit Whyte is a bum.

    You don't accuse a guy of ducking a guy who can't beat the guy you just KO'd.

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      #142
      Originally posted by Deus
      Makes you think he knows he's getting a title shot this summer and that Joshua v Wilder will not be happening.
      Not at all. Hearn and Haymon are obviously both going to have back up plans in place.


      If Joshua v Wilder happens and then the WBC call a mandatory (which is due) then Breazeale will be sat out in the cold waiting when he could have just taken an eliminator and then be guaranteed a shot if he wins...
      Breazeale is going to get a shot whenever Haymon wants him to. There's no need for an eliminator.


      Generally speaking the only reason not to take it is if he is already guaranteed a shot as Wilder's next opponent. This and the previous rumours that Wilder v Breazeale was already agreed comes across pretty suspect.
      He takes what Haymon tells him to take. Haymon thinks Ortiz has a better chance of beating Whyte.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #143
        Originally posted by lefthooklead
        No one is ducking Dillian Whyte. Lol.

        No one.
        Whyte is a much better fight than either Brezeale or the Polish nobody, plus it's much more money. So it makes perfect sense.

        The fact Wilder isn't interested is conclusive evidence that he's ducking the fight. It's as simple as that.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Kezzer
          WHAT garbage. He earned a lot more for facing Ortiz because nobody wanted to see stiverne fight. In he stiverne 2 fight wilder earned $1.4 million, against Ortiz he earned $2.1 million. Even step-a-side money, with intention to always fight him next anyway, he easily would have earned a lot more.
          First of all, publicly released purses are often nonsense.

          Second of all, he didn't end up having to pay off Stiverne, so Wilder's purse for the Ortiz fight ended up being a lot more than it would have been if they'd fought in November.

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            #145
            Originally posted by kafkod
            That's what I thought. He obviously has some kind of leverage with the WBC. They virtually gave Wilder that title to begin with, then dug Stiverne out of the grave and fed him to Deontay again ..
            Where were you in 2016-2017? Stiverne Povetkin eliminator. PEDs. Does that ring a bell?

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              #146
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
              Because everyone not a Joshua stan or a UK fanatic sees Whyte as a C level fighter. You and others consider Ortiz old slow and not a quality win for Wilder. If he beats Whyte, you have to either credit Ortiz for being top level or admit Whyte is a bum.

              You don't accuse a guy of ducking a guy who can't beat the guy you just KO'd.
              Whether Whyte is a bum or not, it still doesn't prove that Wilder didn't duck him. Whyte can either win or lose against Ortiz, but Wilder would have still ducked him. The result of another fight won't change that. The fact you think it does only goes to show that what you have in your head should stay there, and not be shared with everyone else.

              Look, you said something ridiculous like Americans tend to do, then tried to explain it away by saying something equally as dumb. So think about what you write in future otherwise you end up looking very silly.

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              • Ake-Dawg
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                #147
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Whyte is a much better fight than either Brezeale or the Polish nobody, plus it's much more money. So it makes perfect sense.

                The fact Wilder isn't interested is conclusive evidence that he's ducking the fight. It's as simple as that.
                Whyte and Breazeale are in the same level. And Wilder will fight Whyte. Can't wait till King Kong ends this crazy talk from you guys.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  Whether Whyte is a bum or not, it still doesn't prove that Wilder didn't duck him. Whyte can either win or lose against Ortiz, but Wilder would have still ducked him. The result of another fight won't change that. The fact you think it does only goes to show that what you have in your head should stay there, and not be shared with everyone else.

                  Look, you said something ridiculous like Americans tend to do, then tried to explain it away by saying something equally as dumb. So think about what you write in future otherwise you end up looking very silly.
                  I get it. You see things through your biased lenses and can only resort to calling contradictory opinions dumb when you can't use common sense logic to justify your opinion. Tomorrow I will call out Wilder. When he refuses to fight me, he will be ducking me. Got it.

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                  • Travycat
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                    #149
                    Interesting matchup, odd Ortiz is right back in there for another shot so quick with other guys in contention. Sometimes a fighter at Ortiz's age can be more susceptible to knock outs after being floored 3 times like he was his last fight. On the reverse side, Ortiz is probably a more technically sound boxer than Dillian with his own power. I'm guessing Joshua fights Miller and Wilder fights Brazzers.com (oops, typo). Then whomever fights to unify in December.

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                      #150
                      Good cross road fight for both guys. LOL at the stans here saying that anybody is avoiding Whyte. His ****iness is gonna get him KOed again.

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