Canelos cost

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

No, I'm not looking at it from the POV of "canelo is trying to get one over on Gennady". I'm looking at it from the level of "there isn't one legal team that will allow that, nor any promoter who has their best interest in mind that will allow their fighter to basically be penalized/come out of pocket for their opponents wrong doings - which ultimately comes out of his pocket"

He'll get his money. If they can't get the entire purse, it will be 100% adjace.

hes not gonna get shit!

watch.

[Street15]

hes not gonna get shit!

watch.

Nothing? You do understand that purses pay for the training camp, manager fees, promoter fees, trainer fees, cutmen, sparring partners, travel expenses, etc right? GBP is the lead promoter meaning they will be the one dispersing the money. I'm almost for certain that all of those expenses listed above aren't coming out of GGG's own pocket.

I hope it isn't some ugly courtroom back and forth drama show though. There are ways to handle it out of court. Which, to be quite frankly, GBP has seen far too much of in the last 2 years. GBP needs to have faaar less drama laden and controversial storylines. It's very tiring hearing GBP always in court or connected to controversy, while Oscar and fans try to pretend they are this pristine promotional company that do things by the book and are the model for how things should be done. It's a reallllllyyy bad look.

Hopefully this sorts itself out and isn't a big spectacle.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Nothing? You do understand that purses pay for the training camp, manager fees, promoter fees, trainer fees, cutmen, sparring partners, travel expenses, etc right? GBP is the lead promoter meaning they will be the one dispersing the money. I'm almost for certain that all of those expenses listed above aren't coming out of GGG's own pocket.

I hope it isn't some ugly courtroom back and forth drama show though. There are ways to handle it out of court. Which, to be quite frankly, GBP has seen far too much of in the last 2 years. GBP needs to have faaar less drama laden and controversial storylines. It's very tiring hearing GBP always in court or connected to controversy, while Oscar and fans try to pretend they are this pristine promotional company that do things by the book and are the model for how things should be done. It's a reallllllyyy bad look.

Hopefully this sorts itself out and isn't a big spectacle.

I understand all of that, but who cares? you clearly dont understand boxing business etc, and it shows.

lmfao its not anyone responsibility but the fighters on who pays the sparring, managers etc etc etc, Fights get called off all the time for xyz reason and the "victim" side never gets a consolations check lmfao. you just deal with it, thats boxing.

Think about this, why do fighters offer extra money to the other fighters when they miss weight? cause if they dont the fight can possibly be off and they dont get paid at all. Now Why do fighters accept that payment? cause if they dont the fight will be called off and THEY DONT GET PAID EITHER!

Hell remeber ward vs pavlik? Pavlik pulled out of the blue and said he is retiring, did ward get paid? lmfao

[STREET CLEANER]

The event DID get canceled. The event, which was "Canelo vs GGG 2" is indeed not happening. Fighting on the same date has nothing to do with this fight. Fighting in the same city has nothing to do with this fight. Tom Loeffler and his legal team have to draft an entirely new contract for a different venue, a different opponent, a different guaranteed purse, draft new resolutions for HBO PPV numbers and prices, decide what hotels will air the fight, decide how they will advertise with the little amount of time they have left, etc.

Then I stand corrected.

[Shape up]

When the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association revealed Russia’s Alexander Povetkin tested positive for meldonium less than a week before Wilder was supposed to make a mandatory title defense against Povetkin in Moscow, their May 2016 fight was canceled and it cost Wilder a $4.5 million purse. He successfully sued Povetkin and promoter Andrey Ryabinskiy in a Manhattan federal court seven months ago, but after that civil trial the last thing Wilder wants to do is waste more time and money.

[TonyGe]

Did Cotto pay GGG that 800,000 yet?

Yeah he paid him.

[Street15]

I understand all of that, but who cares? you clearly dont understand boxing business etc, and it shows.

lmfao its not anyone responsibility but the fighters on who pays the sparring, managers etc etc etc, Fights get called off all the time for xyz reason and the "victim" side never gets a consolations check lmfao. you just deal with it, thats boxing.

Think about this, why do fighters offer extra money to the other fighters when they miss weight? cause if they dont the fight can possibly be off and they dont get paid at all. Now Why do fighters accept that payment? cause if they dont the fight will be called off and THEY DONT GET PAID EITHER!

Hell remeber ward vs pavlik? Pavlik pulled out of the blue and said he is retiring, did ward get paid? lmfao

Calling a fight off due to injury is MUUUUCH different than a breach of contract due to testing positive for a banned substance. You have one situation that isn't of anyone's fault and another situation that is due to flat out cheating (whether intentional or not, as far as Nevada is concerned, all positive tests are treated as doping/cheating).

And you definitely don't remember that event too well. Andre Ward pulled out of that fight due to a shoulder injury in which he ended up getting surgery.

As far as weight penalties. Those are always pre-negotiated in the contract before they're signed. They can be revised later down the line, but those are in writing.

Again though, I hope it doesn't come to that. GBP and Canelo need to stay away from the court rooms. They're synonymous with controversy and drama now.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Calling a fight off due to injury is MUUUUCH different than a breach of contract due to testing positive for a banned substance. You have one situation that isn't of anyone's fault and another situation that is due to flat out cheating (whether intentional or not, as far as Nevada is concerned, all positive tests are treated as doping/cheating).

And you definitely don't remember that event too well. Andre Ward pulled out of that fight due to a shoulder injury in which he ended up getting surgery.

As far as weight penalties. Those are always pre-negotiated in the contract before they're signed. They can be revised later down the line, but those are in writing.

Again though, I hope it doesn't come to that. GBP and Canelo need to stay away from the court rooms. They're synonymous with controversy and drama now.

its the same shit.

Pavlik called off the fight cause of no injuries he was cleared to go.

You making up a fantasy world you live in, these are facts.

Provide some facts on your end where a fighter got sued etc and won for backing out of a fight.

I'll WAIT!

[Street15]

When the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association revealed Russia’s Alexander Povetkin tested positive for meldonium less than a week before Wilder was supposed to make a mandatory title defense against Povetkin in Moscow, their May 2016 fight was canceled and it cost Wilder a $4.5 million purse. He successfully sued Povetkin and promoter Andrey Ryabinskiy in a Manhattan federal court seven months ago, but after that civil trial the last thing Wilder wants to do is waste more time and money.

Exactly. This is the part that alot of people are failing to realize. A precedent has now been set that a person taking a banned substance CAN get sued for breach of contract. And because of this precedent, it will always be used in court in similar situations and judges will almost certainly have to allow.

[Street15]

its the same shit.

Pavlik called off the fight cause of no injuries he was cleared to go.

You making up a fantasy world you live in, these are facts.

Provide some facts on your end where a fighter got sued etc and won for backing out of a fight.

I'll WAIT!

Not being able to fight due to surgery and cheating are NOT the same thing.

I literally just gave you facts. And you changed it up. 1st you say Pavlik pulled out of the fight out of the blue. Then I approached it with facts and told you the reason why the fight didn't happen - which was due to surgery.

Wilder sued Povetkin for breach of contract just recently which sets precedent. https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/2/1...ander-povetkin

And also......Don King got sued for the same thing...Guillermo failed a drug test, fight couldn't happen because of that, then he was sued by Ryabinsky (which ironically was the one that got sued by Wilder for the VERY SAME THING)....so there was precedent then too.
http://www.blackenterprise.com/don-k...anceled-fight/
https://www.boxingscene.com/judge-si...on-king--82769

When the April 18th verdict comes out, and NSAC officially indefinitely suspends Canelo, that fight will be considered canceled. (he pulled out not because of injuries, he pulled out do to facing suspension) And due to the precedent that has been set already, they do have LEGAL grounds to sue for breach of contract. And based on these two cases that, they have a very good chance of winning.