Comments Thread For: Crawford: No Reason Why Spence, Thurman Fights Can't Happen!

[shawn4943]

First things first: Mr. Crawford, please never wear that shirt in that stock photo ever, EVER again. Respectfully: The entire sighted population.

Now then- Preach on, oh wardrobe challenged great one, the Choir is listening!! Too often in the history of this sport, promoters, worthless belt commissions, and more recently networks have felt like they get to pick what happens when a fighter signs on the dotted line. Fighters are the ones who train for 5 months. Fighters are the ones who sacrifice family time. They are the ones with the other guy looking to hurt them. They are the money makers and the way these promoters and worthless belt commissions can afford to buy their kids the GI Joe's with the Kung-Fu grips. Fighters are Alpha males. They need to dictate what happens with their careers as such. Crawford could have earned decent money dominating the 140 division and getting some nice fights from 135 pound guys moving up to fight him. He came to 147 for these top guys. He wants these fights. His support group needs to respect that, do their jobs, and make the fights networks/other promoters/worthless alphabet groups be ignored.

He's not just wardrobe challenged. Have you seen his significant other?

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[lex_fugitive]

Bud says he is #1 p4p. He also says he fights who he wants. Thus far, Postol, Diaz, and Indongo are probably his three best opponents. All at 140. For all of them Bud was close to 160 in the ring. He says he can fight anyone, he is already 30 years old, older than Spence, Thurman, DSG. Meanwhile,

Thurman has fought DSG and Porter.
DSG fought Khan, Matthysse, and Thurman when they were ranked as the best in the division.
Spence has fought Peterson and fought Brook in England.
Even Broner has fought Maidana (at 147), Porter, and Mikey Garcia.
Porter has fought Brook and Thurman.
Brook has fought Porter, G, and Spence.
Khan has fought DSG and Canelo.

And Bud has fought Diaz and Postol... If Bud, who had a stellar amateur career, is 160 pounds, 30 years old, and he fights whoever he wants, and has only fought guys like Indongo and Postol, and chose to fight a retired school teacher in his next fight, what in the world would make anyone believe Bud will ever fight anyone like Spence or Thurman? He has never fought an elite opponent. Not one A level fighter. Ever. And he is 30 years old and the same size as everyone in the most stacked division in boxing. Stop the excuses and start fighting the best.

[lex_fugitive]

Isn't the "Arum only does in house fights" talk getting old now? The same folks that regurgitate that swore he'd freeze Rigo out and was scared of him and then he was only using Linares as some sort of ploy for Beltran keep running with it.

Crawford may not get all of the PBC guys (PBC keeps it in house just as much if not more than any other promoter) but he'll likely get the last man standing. Hopefully that's soon enough. Hopefully it's Spence as I think he'd go straight from Thurman to Crawford whereas Thurman will take time off if he wins and then tuneups.

So far Bud- who is the same size as the other top wws- has fought Postol, Diaz, and Indongo.

Thurman has fought DSG and Porter.
Brook has fought Porter, G, and Spence.
DSG fought Khan, Matthysse, and Thurman who were all ranked #1 in the division.
AB has fought Maidana, Porter, and Mikey.
Porter has fought Brook and Thurman.
Even Khan has fought DSG and Canelo.

And Bud has fought Diaz and Indongo. Yea, Bud is the same size as these guys and the same age or older, and he says he chooses who he fights, and he has told Bob, he wants Diaz and Indongo and that's the best?!? If he is wanting to fight Indongo and Horn now, how does him talking change any of that?

He can say anything he wants. It does not matter if Bud chooses his opponents or Bob does or someone else. The fact is whoever is making his fights is scared to put him in with any A level opponent.

[chrisJS]

So far Bud- who is the same size as the other top wws- has fought Postol, Diaz, and Indongo.

Thurman has fought DSG and Porter.
Brook has fought Porter, G, and Spence.
DSG fought Khan, Matthysse, and Thurman who were all ranked #1 in the division.
AB has fought Maidana, Porter, and Mikey.
Porter has fought Brook and Thurman.
Even Khan has fought DSG and Canelo.

And Bud has fought Diaz and Indongo. Yea, Bud is the same size as these guys and the same age or older, and he says he chooses who he fights, and he has told Bob, he wants Diaz and Indongo and that's the best?!? If he is wanting to fight Indongo and Horn now, how does him talking change any of that?

He can say anything he wants. It does not matter if Bud chooses his opponents or Bob does or someone else. The fact is whoever is making his fights is scared to put him in with any A level opponent.

He fought at 135 and beat the champion and #1 in the division (Burns) in his backyard and then beat the best guy at 130 (Gamboa) as an underdog and then beat the #2 guy in the division (Beltran). He then beat the #1 guy at 140 (Postol) and then the other unified champion (Indongo). You can't do much more than beat the top 3 guys in your division i.e cleaned out and moved up.

Crawford ruined those guys. Absolute wipe outs either via shut out and/or punishing stoppage victories.

[lex_fugitive]

He fought at 135 and beat the champion and #1 in the division (Burns) in his backyard and then beat the best guy at 130 (Gamboa) as an underdog and then beat the #2 guy in the division (Beltran). He then beat the #1 guy at 140 (Postol) and then the other unified champion (Indongo). You can't do much more than beat the top 3 guys in your division i.e cleaned out and moved up.

Crawford ruined those guys. Absolute wipe outs either via shut out and/or punishing stoppage victories.

Ok, so he has proven he is on the same level as Prograis.

Yea, you could try and fight guys your own size. You could fight the top guys.

Also, how do you rate Mikey? He literally just fought the #1 guy who was also much bigger naturally, than Mikey. How about Prograis, his stoppages and wins have been just as impressive if not more so than Buds.

He was 160 pounds and you think Diaz and Postol are the best fights he could get? DSG, Thurman, Spence are all the same size and they have been fighting top guys.

DSG has fought Morales twice, Khan, Judah, Matthysse at 140 and fought Peterson and Thurman at ww. He is smaller and younger and less experienced than Bud. Somehow, he managed to fight ELITE fighters, while Bud waited until DSG and Peterson moved north and then he again changed divisions when Mikey and Prograis showed their skills. And fighting a paper champ, probably the 7th best ww, is also terribly weak.

Go ahead and say, he beat Burns and Indongo, he is great! All his record proves to me is he always has an excuse to avoid the best. Always.

DSG, Porter, Khan, Spence, Brook, Broner have all managed to fight better opposition. I guess if Bud is choosing who he fights, maybe he should leave it to someone else. He talks a bunch, then he fights a B or C level opponent. That unified with two belts is bs. He took them from bums. Mayweather beat Baldomir who would have been the undisputed unified champ with all four belts, not just two, if Baldy had paid the fees for the belts. Does that make Baldomir the toughest opponent? No, paper belts don't mean anything. He picked up the scraps from DSG who was cleaning out the division when it was stacked with good talent.

Just wake me up when he fights an A level opponent. You are impressed because he fought Diaz and Indongo and says he wants to fight A level fighters.
I'm impressed by guys that actually do fight A level opponents and not just talk about it.

Just a reminded, a few years ago, one could say the same thing about AB and many did. Fought the best and won titles in very weak divisions, some really impressive wins. Guess what? He then fought Maidana, Porter, and Mikey. And he is much smaller and not as good as Bud. Yet he isn't scared, somehow he has managed to fight better opponents. Khan who has a glass chin has fought tougher opposition.

These guys are smaller and younger than Bud. Quit making excuses, no wonder Bud won't fight a top 5 welterweight. Someone who is 160 pounds in the ring, and has purposefully chosen to fight the opposition he has, clearly has some real confidence problems. Bud talks. DSG, Thurman, Spence, Porter, AB, Khan, Brook, Vargas, they all go out and try to prove how good they are. Talk is cheap and so are paper titles. Apparently this paper belt is too much for espn though, as it is going to be a ppv for $5 as espn won't pay the purses. Oh, but yes, I'm sure he really wants Spence, Thurman, DSG, Porter, Prograis, and Mikey. He is just fighting a retired school teacher instead because...

[lex_fugitive]

He fought at 135 and beat the champion and #1 in the division (Burns) in his backyard and then beat the best guy at 130 (Gamboa) as an underdog and then beat the #2 guy in the division (Beltran). He then beat the #1 guy at 140 (Postol) and then the other unified champion (Indongo). You can't do much more than beat the top 3 guys in your division i.e cleaned out and moved up.

Crawford ruined those guys. Absolute wipe outs either via shut out and/or punishing stoppage victories.

While 160 pound Bud was ruining Postol and Diaz, Spence was literally breaking Brook's face. Thurman and DSG were fighting each other.

AB unified belts in weak divisions and had equally impressive wins where he "ruined" guys. Then he stopped talking and started fighting. Yea, you can beat guys in a weak division, or you can fight the top fighters who just all happen to be the same size as Bud. Yea, Spence, DSG, Porter, and Thurman would all beat everyone Bud has ever fought. No doubt. Yet we penalize fighters for having balls and fighting the best, and praise ******* who won't ever fight anyone better than a retired school teacher.

[chrisJS]

Ok, so he has proven he is on the same level as Prograis.

Yea, you could try and fight guys your own size. You could fight the top guys.

Also, how do you rate Mikey? He literally just fought the #1 guy who was also much bigger naturally, than Mikey. How about Prograis, his stoppages and wins have been just as impressive if not more so than Buds.

He was 160 pounds and you think Diaz and Postol are the best fights he could get? DSG, Thurman, Spence are all the same size and they have been fighting top guys.

DSG has fought Morales twice, Khan, Judah, Matthysse at 140 and fought Peterson and Thurman at ww. He is smaller and younger and less experienced than Bud. Somehow, he managed to fight ELITE fighters, while Bud waited until DSG and Peterson moved north and then he again changed divisions when Mikey and Prograis showed their skills. And fighting a paper champ, probably the 7th best ww, is also terribly weak.

Go ahead and say, he beat Burns and Indongo, he is great! All his record proves to me is he always has an excuse to avoid the best. Always.

DSG, Porter, Khan, Spence, Brook, Broner have all managed to fight better opposition. I guess if Bud is choosing who he fights, maybe he should leave it to someone else. He talks a bunch, then he fights a B or C level opponent. That unified with two belts is bs. He took them from bums. Mayweather beat Baldomir who would have been the undisputed unified champ with all four belts, not just two, if Baldy had paid the fees for the belts. Does that make Baldomir the toughest opponent? No, paper belts don't mean anything. He picked up the scraps from DSG who was cleaning out the division when it was stacked with good talent.

Just wake me up when he fights an A level opponent. You are impressed because he fought Diaz and Indongo and says he wants to fight A level fighters.
I'm impressed by guys that actually do fight A level opponents and not just talk about it.

Just a reminded, a few years ago, one could say the same thing about AB and many did. Fought the best and won titles in very weak divisions, some really impressive wins. Guess what? He then fought Maidana, Porter, and Mikey. And he is much smaller and not as good as Bud. Yet he isn't scared, somehow he has managed to fight better opponents. Khan who has a glass chin has fought tougher opposition.

These guys are smaller and younger than Bud. Quit making excuses, no wonder Bud won't fight a top 5 welterweight. Someone who is 160 pounds in the ring, and has purposefully chosen to fight the opposition he has, clearly has some real confidence problems. Bud talks. DSG, Thurman, Spence, Porter, AB, Khan, Brook, Vargas, they all go out and try to prove how good they are. Talk is cheap and so are paper titles. Apparently this paper belt is too much for espn though, as it is going to be a ppv for $5 as espn won't pay the purses. Oh, but yes, I'm sure he really wants Spence, Thurman, DSG, Porter, Prograis, and Mikey. He is just fighting a retired school teacher instead because...

Let me know when Prograis cleans out one division let alone two. If he does that's impressive and I consider him an impressive fighter.

Mikey is very good but he's kind of a cherry picker. He's defended his 4 titles a total of one time and has fought basically the same style of opponent every time. He has cleaned out zero divisions and hasn't beaten anyone as good as Postol or Gamboa (who he avoided). Lipinets wasn't the #1. He's not as impressive a fighter as Prograis, Postol or Ramirez.

Garcia also got a gift decision over Herrera and probably deserved the L against Peterson. The same Peterson who got a gift over Diaz who Crawford smoked.

What divisions did Broner clear out? He also got a gift over Ponce and barely sc****d by the ghost of Malignaggi. What's his best win? DeMarco?

You are making assumptions. He's beaten the top 3 at the two weights he's been out and cleaned both divisions out and has yet to fight at 147. There is nothing to support your theory he won't fight a top 5 WW. Do you understand there's a lot of PBC guys at 147 and they are notoriously in house. Garcia himself as explained why he wouldn't want to fight Crawford and seems to talk about it in a way he knows he can't beat him. Horn is the best available opponent because Thurman is taking tune-ups, Garcia and Spence are waiting for Thurman, Spence has a mandatory waiting for Thurman (all PBC), Mikey is Mikey, Pacquaio turned down a Crawford fight and is fighting Mattheyse so Horn has the other belt and is the highest ranking opponent he could fight because if h fought Prograis, guess what? You'd complain he's picking on smaller fighters that haven't proven themselves.

[chrisJS]

While 160 pound Bud was ruining Postol and Diaz, Spence was literally breaking Brook's face. Thurman and DSG were fighting each other.

AB unified belts in weak divisions and had equally impressive wins where he "ruined" guys. Then he stopped talking and started fighting. Yea, you can beat guys in a weak division, or you can fight the top fighters who just all happen to be the same size as Bud. Yea, Spence, DSG, Porter, and Thurman would all beat everyone Bud has ever fought. No doubt. Yet we penalize fighters for having balls and fighting the best, and praise ******* who won't ever fight anyone better than a retired school teacher.

Do you know what unified means?

If so please explain to me when Broner unified.

[landotter]

lol...love broke dudes commenting on others peoples clothes...other people that make real money and probably have a stylist

reminds me of that Kenny powers line ..."i know one of us has had their own personal stylist....and the other one shoplifts their **** from Fashion Bug...that's what I know"

some people are so plain and boring that they cant pull looks/styles off without looking completely out of place and foolish....landotter sounds like one of those guys

Never been to Fashion Bug.... But the rest is probably spot on.

[landotter]

Spence will take your '0' if you venture in his direction.

Boy, that could be fun. Spence is much bigger naturally. But Crawford lives for challenges. There will be no ducking Spence, just hope Crawford gives himself a couple of training camps before it happens. He needs all the power he can get. Spence has #1 P4P potential.