If Golovkin retired today, would he be a HOFer?

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  • satiev1
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    #41
    Originally posted by KingHippo
    And I guarantee that most of them would have a defining moment in their careers that would warrant their induction.
    And what was whitakers? Losing to Jose luis ramirez in his prime? Trinidad and de la hoya? Can you imagine if golovkin lost to a guy in his prime on the level of jose luis ramirez? JUST LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLL.

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    • Hond
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      #42
      No to be honest. He got HOF talent but he honestly lacks 1 or 2 top tier wins. He should have moved up or down in weight (probably up given his physique) when the divisions were hot. Hagler never moved either but the MW divison back in his day had legacy-building quality.

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      • True That
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        #43
        Originally posted by KingHippo
        Nice way to dodge my argument.

        It's not dodging, it's not arguing, it's facts. You're trying to argue, not me.

        Nothing I mentioned is a lie, it's the truth, it's fact. No need to say anything else really.
        Last edited by True That; 03-18-2018, 04:50 PM.

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        • KingHippo
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          #44
          Originally posted by satiev1
          And what was whitakers? Losing to Jose luis ramirez in his prime? Trinidad and de la hoya? Can you imagine if golovkin lost to a guy in his prime on the level of jose luis ramirez? JUST LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLL.
          Whitaker has been in legendary fights and is a 4 division champ.

          Originally posted by satiev1
          He's 36 and at the top of the game. It just shows how skillful and technical he is that at his age he can still outbox and outjab a guy 10 years younger. Not sure I know of too many fighters than can do that. At 36 you loses most of your reflexes and speed. Hopkins was one. Roy jones jr was getting koed cold by journey man at 36. Where was hagler and leonard at 36?
          Who cares, Jones was already a 3 weight champion with victories against 2 hofers by the time he was 36. Most of these guys have cemented their legacies way before this age.

          This isn't even a questions of skills either, it's about whether Golovkin's career is HOF worthy. And when you look coldly at his spreadsheet, I don't think it is.

          And he did not outbox Canelo. Outjabbed, yes, but I don't call plodding for 12 rounds straight missing nearly 70% of your power shots "outboxing".

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          • kidbazooka
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            #45
            If he beats Canelo convincingly in the rematch then yes if not then NO, he’s had no signature win.

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            • Sun_Tzu
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              #46
              20+ ko streak in the midst of a ton of title defenses. Yes he gets in. There are fighters with far less credentials that are in.

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              • mcdonalds
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                #47
                Originally posted by stealthradon
                Someone seems upset that GGG defeated all his opponents.
                Besides Jacobs (who actually won) and brook, the guys GGG beat don't have any fans. No one knows who they are

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                • Graz
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                  #48
                  Absolutely. Undefeated and Highest KO percentage in the history of the MW Division. Why wouldn’t he qualify? Aside from bias no reason not to be.

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                  • stealthradon
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by KingHippo
                    Do I really need to answer that?
                    Yes, you actually do, since it seems to be entirely subjective.

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                    • stealthradon
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by mcdonalds
                      Besides Jacobs (who actually won) and brook, the guys GGG beat don't have any fans. No one knows who they are
                      No, Jacobs didn't win. He got outclassed, only idiotic blind GGG-haters like you believe Jacobs won.
                      So it's just about having fans? And how do you measure fans?

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