If Golovkin retired today, would he be a HOFer?

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  • Mike D
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    #71
    Originally posted by KingHippo
    Don't think he deserve's it. Never beat a p4p fighter, never broke any records, never fought outside his division. Overall a very mediocre career if you ask me.
    Yeah. 37-0. 33 by stoppage. 90% KO percentage. Has the unified WBA, WBC, IBF, and IBO middleweight titles. Gold and silver medal at the Olympics. Very, very mediocre career.

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    • stealthradon
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dosumpthin
      GGG never dared to be really good. Not great, I'm just talking about really good.


      As others would say Mr ezfomi ducked certain fighters.


      He didn't want to throw hands with WARD.


      Stayed at 160.


      Arguably lost to a welterweight in Canelo.


      B level Jacob's schooled him.



      And I'm big fan of lil G.



      Just calling it how it is.
      You mean how he wouldn't go to delay his Canelo fight, to go to 175 to fight Ward?
      There would be no catch-weight. Ward was too busy being "injured".
      What the fúck is it with you people and moving up in weight, like it's putting on different pants?
      He didn't lose to "Welterweight" Canelo. Nobody believes that.
      Jacobs didn't school him.
      You sure look like a fan if you call him Lil'G and lying.

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        #73
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
        How would all this work if Canelo beats him? Would many really care about him after that anymore? His ship is already half-empty now.

        I don't remember ANY memorable career defining fight for GGG. The guy had hype without the skills to back it up.
        Where is Canelo's career-defining fight?

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          #74
          Originally posted by stealthradon
          Where is Canelo's career-defining fight?
          His defeat to Floyd! At least he tried.
          Ward-GGG would've been nice too.

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            #75
            Originally posted by KingHippo
            Don't think he deserve's it. Never beat a p4p fighter, never broke any records, never fought outside his division. Overall a very mediocre career if you ask me.
            Have you seen some of the other guys in there? Despite the shortcomings of his opposition Golovkin has been the boogieman of the division for half a decade - and his (admittedly bogus IMO) title run is amongst the longest in history in any division. By the record books Golovkin should be a lock. I know folk say his fanbase overate Golovkin, but I think some people tend to go too far the other way, too.. you'd think the guy was just some **** average C-rater to read some of the stuff on here.

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            • Thraxox
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              #76
              Originally posted by KingHippo
              I think he will be, but I don't think he deserves it. His career is too uneventful.
              Stick to facts? Like what? You saying Stiverne is a harder puncher than Klitschko?

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                #77
                Those wins over David Lemieux and Dominic Wade really cement his HOF status

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #78
                  i dont know if hes in right now and i really dont care

                  but i absolutely love when people cite older fighters who never moved divisions or older guys that got in with their resumes...as if the landscape never changes and we hold all fighters to the same exact standard...these days more guys move divisions than ever....holding hagler and golovkin to the same standard, or benitez, simply isnt rational

                  hey! lets run the USA on the same standards and principals we did 200 years ago!!!

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
                    Those wins over David Lemieux and Dominic Wade really cement his HOF status
                    i feel you

                    i want to put marcos primera and jesse brinkley in the HOF for their wins over curtis stevens

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by stealthradon
                      You mean how he wouldn't go to delay his Canelo fight, to go to 175 to fight Ward?
                      There would be no catch-weight. Ward was too busy being "injured".
                      What the fúck is it with you people and moving up in weight, like it's putting on different pants?
                      He didn't lose to "Welterweight" Canelo. Nobody believes that.
                      Jacobs didn't school him.
                      You sure look like a fan if you call him Lil'G and lying.
                      ward never asked about a 175 lb fight...he called him while he was making the lemiuex fight and said "go ahead and fight lemieux and we can fight at 168 in 2016"....that was the year he fought kell brook and dom wade......and he still could have had his canelo fight in 2017

                      but lil g was worried he would get schooled by ward and then no one would care about him fighting canelo....so he tucked his sack in like kate jenner

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