Who hits harder, George Foreman or Deontay Wilder?

[billeau2]

This is a tougher one to measure . Wilder has not fought guys with proven chins and Foremans own K.O % dropped significantly the heavier his opposition was .

Going by 250 plus Foreman i would still have to edge it to him . Not completely sold on Wilder as a top 5 hardest puncher coupled with many rabbit punches to the back of opponents heads .

Its close , i just dont think Wilder has enough credible opposition to put him over Foremans opposition bc they were better fighters than Molina , Duhaupas etc ...... Foreman also knocked out /hurt guys with less punches landed . Looking at just the fights themselves tells me Foremans punches make the opponents hurt more .

After reading through the thread entirely I think this post makes the most sense.

We are trying to find a common variable so we can measure these two punches. Some of the way people do that is really clueless: Did it ever occur to anyone, given Ali's history, that Wepner tagging him was more a testiment to Wepner than a mark against Ali's chin? Look at what Ali was able to take from opposition over his career that tells you a lot.

As said, Holyfield has a great chin, throw that point of comparison out. We probably would not be having this conversation if Ortiz went the distance because ortiz has a decent chin. Thats a start... Tyson also went up the ladder and KO'ed all his subpar opposition. But when he fought against better opponents his KO percentage went way down. Razor Ruddock is a great example of that process...Tyson was able to knock him down, but not out, Razor was a stronger opponent.

We need to see Wilder against a better class of fighters. David Haye might even punch harder than Wilder at this point, we will not know until we see Wilder fight guys who are a step up...not wilder's fault either, but we have to see if he is an elite puncher that can apply his power against other championship bound fighters....Oh wait he knocked out Charlie Z? never mind!!

[joseph5620]

Ali was seriously hurt, but the bell rang when he got up..Dundee split his glove to give him more time to recover in the corner

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No he didn't. That's a lie and myth that's been used by many including Dundee.

[Larry the boss]

No he didn't. That's a lie and myth that's been used by many including Dundee.

I think Dundee knows more then you man

[KingHippo]

George Foreman = Heavy hands

Deontay Wilder = Lights out power

[juggernaut666]

George Foreman = Heavy hands

Deontay Wilder = Lights out power

How would eiher compare with the power house Stiverne you think ?

[4truth]

Foreman brought more force than velocity, Wilder more velocity than force, Tua had both force and velocity. I vote Tua

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[_Rexy_]

Foreman was the better boxer, Wilder has more power.

Foreman was strong, but he seems to be overrated in that aspect as time goes by. Shavers was a much harder puncher

[sbbigmike]

Wilder hits harder hands down.

Foreman was physically stronger, and bigger than 90% of his opponents. If you match Wilder vs Foreman's opponents that advantage is significantly greater for Wilder than t was for Foreman.

208lb Holyfield was eating flush punches from Foreman over 12 rounds, and although it was a past prime Foreman he was significantly bigger, more durable, and kept most of his power if not hitting harder at that weight.

Foreman was the proto-super HW, before the division was littered with them like it is now.

208 pound Evan Fields was roided you know this......

[juggernaut666]

After reading through the thread entirely I think this post makes the most sense.

We are trying to find a common variable so we can measure these two punches. Some of the way people do that is really clueless: Did it ever occur to anyone, given Ali's history, that Wepner tagging him was more a testiment to Wepner than a mark against Ali's chin? Look at what Ali was able to take from opposition over his career that tells you a lot.

As said, Holyfield has a great chin, throw that point of comparison out. We probably would not be having this conversation if Ortiz went the distance because ortiz has a decent chin. Thats a start... Tyson also went up the ladder and KO'ed all his subpar opposition. But when he fought against better opponents his KO percentage went way down. Razor Ruddock is a great example of that process...Tyson was able to knock him down, but not out, Razor was a stronger opponent.

We need to see Wilder against a better class of fighters. David Haye might even punch harder than Wilder at this point, we will not know until we see Wilder fight guys who are a step up...not wilder's fault either, but we have to see if he is an elite puncher that can apply his power against other championship bound fighters....Oh wait he knocked out Charlie Z? never mind!!

Wilders height gives him a significant advantage punching down as well bc of his speed . Its more velocity behind some of those K.O s .

His best one was Szpilka but he ran into the punch. Jennings also stopped Szpilka in less time and hes not a hard puncher at least hasnt shown to be .


Obviously Wilder has the zap power but it takes him more punches on average to down someone , he didnt down Duhaupas who was used like a heavy bag but we question Joshua now bc he DIDNT land any actual power flush punch on Parker ? lol


These Wilder fanatics are ridiculous not in the way of their opinion but how they go about it , They hype him up to extreme agendas that they claim Stivernes right hand is the best next to Wilders and Wilder is more skilled than Bowe AND Ali ?

[Mr Objecitivity]

Wilders height gives him a significant advantage punching down as well bc of his speed . Its more velocity behind some of those K.O s .

His best one was Szpilka but he ran into the punch. Jennings also stopped Szpilka in less time and hes not a hard puncher at least hasnt shown to be .


Obviously Wilder has the zap power but it takes him more punches on average to down someone , he didnt down Duhaupas who was used like a heavy bag but we question Joshua now bc he DIDNT land any actual power flush punch on Parker ? lol


These Wilder fanatics are ridiculous not in the way of their opinion but how they go about it , They hype him up to extreme agendas that they claim Stivernes right hand is the best next to Wilders and Wilder is more skilled than Bowe AND Ali ?

Have you read this thread by the way?

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777255